THE BALL AND ORDER PODCAST RETURNS! Trade rumors about Donovan Mitchell, the DeAndre Ayton Saga, Kevin Durant’s winding path to somewhere else, and a confusing NBA offseason have brought Gabe Ibrahim and Alex Lange out of their podcast holes (if you ignore the show two weeks ago). They discuss all of those subjects plus debate which NBA teams have actually improved this offseason.

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The Atlanta Hawks and Boston Celtics came into this season with high expectations but are currently not close to reaching them. Gabe Ibrahim and Alex Lange try to figure out and provide potential solutions for Trae Young’s group and Jayson Tatum’s team. They also get into Cole Anthony’s magical season so far, the actually good Washington Wizards, and the perpetually horrendous Minnesota Timberwolves.

Show Outline

* Atlanta Hawks (1:27-21:21)

* The defense is an abomination

* Did the playoffs give us a false expectations of this team?

* Learning how to deal with success

* Ben Simmons trade?

* Boston Celtics (22:21-37:11)

* Does this team like each other/make sense?

* Is there a plus-creator on the roster?

* How do they not have any depth after years of draft capital?

* Lightning Round (37:11- 52:00)

* The lockout was 10 years ago

* Terrance Ross is still on pace for the all-time plus-minus record.

* First-place Washington Wizards

* Oh no Minnesota

* Is Cole Anthony an all-star?

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It was 1997 in the NBA for a minute! The Miami Heat, Chicago Bulls and New York Knicks were atop the Eastern Conference as they were 24 years ago. However, they have all lost games and face serious questions going forward. Gabe Ibrahim and Alex Lange break down the good and bad for all three teams as well as project where they may end up in 2021. Subscribe to our newsletter, ballandorder.substack.com!

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The Washington Wizards, Sacramento Kings, Cleveland Cavaliers and the Minnesota Timberwolves have gotten out to hot starts, but can they sustain it? Gabe Ibrahim and Alex Lange try to answer that question for all four teams. They also discuss why this Wizards team feels different (0:53), the Kings’s interesting backcourt (18:44), Ricky Rubio’s stabilizing play (33:47), and Anthony Edwards’s leadership (42:29).

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Gabe and Alex are back and doing an NBA podcast now instead of sports history. The NBA is also back and, after one game, we’re ready to smash that panic button for at least one team: the Los Angeles Lakers! We explain why we think the Lakers will underperform, how Russell Westbrook affects their ceiling, and how washed the rest of Lakers are. They also discuss the messy Brooklyn Nets, whether Jaylen Brown is better than Jayson Tatum and who plays for the San Antonio Spurs.

*THERE WILL BE NO DISCUSSION ON BEN SIMMONS OR KYRIE IRVING*

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Gabe and Alex are back and doing an NBA podcast now instead of sports history. The NBA is also back and, after one game, we’re ready to smash that panic button for at least one team: the Los Angeles Lakers! We explain why we think the Lakers will underperform, how Russell Westbrook affects their ceiling, and how washed the rest of Lakers are. They also discuss the Brooklyn Nets, Chris Duarte, Jaylen Brown and the San Antonio Spurs.

Show Outline

* Who is hitting the panic button

* Los Angeles Lakers

* Portland Blazers

* Brooklyn Nets

* Player you're unreasonably high on after one game

* Jaylen Brown--MVP

* Chris Duarte--Rookie of the Year

* Alex's game: Do you know who is playing for the San Antonio Spurs or Oklahoma City Thunder?

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The history of the NFL Draft is litterred with examples of NFL scouts simply not watching college football including the Chicago Bears taking Mitch Tribusky over Patrick Mahomes, Philip Buchanon over Ed Reed, Christian Hackenberg over Dak Prescott. Zach Wilson, Mac Jones or Trey Jones going ahead of Justin Fields might join that list. Gabe Ibrahim and Alex Lange breakdown the 2021 NFL draft and how NFL teams are failing in their evaluation of top talent.

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The history of the NFL Draft is litterred with examples of NFL scouts simply not watching college football including the Chicago Bears taking Mitch Tribusky over Patrick Mahomes, Philip Buchanon over Ed Reed, Christian Hackenberg over Dak Prescott. Zach Wilson, Mac Jones or Trey Jones going ahead of Justin Fields might join that list. Gabe Ibrahim and Alex Lange breakdown the 2021 NFL draft and how NFL teams are failing in their evaluation of top talent.

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The NBA Trade Deadline is on Thursday and we are making trades that you have never thought of. Gabe and Alex play a game they invented where they spin the wheel, get two random NBA teams, and agree to a reasonable trade between the teams. The Utah Jazz, Houston Rockets, Philadelphia 76ers, Charlotte Hornets, Orlando Magic, Sacramento Kings, LA Clippers, and Memphis Grizzlies all make moves with the hosts acting as their general managers.

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John Gasaway of ESPN's Bubble Watch joins Gabe to talk about his new book: Miracles on the Hardwood. The book talks about the concept of "Catholic College Basketball." In it, John details how Catholic schools have impacted the world of college basketball and its most legendary moments. We talked about John Thompson and Georgetown, Hank Gathers and Gonzaga's amazing run in 2021 as we head into March Madness. You can buy the book here: https://www.twelvebooks.com/titles/john-gasaway/miracles-on-the-hardwood/9781538717103/. Check out Gabe's book review for more: https://ballandorder.substack.com/p/book-review-miracles-on-the-hardwood.

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