In this episode, Mark and Ann are again joined by Dr. Edmund Mazza, where they further explore the latest version of his thesis, that the words and actions of Pope Benedict indicate his belief in the irrevocability of the papacy: Indeed, despite his “resignation,” Benedict claims there remains within him a deep spiritual connection to the papacy, invisible, mystical, but in an ontological way -- within his very being. This is something that, “cannot be removed under any circumstances.” Benedict’s actions in February 2013 indicate he intended to cleave the Vicarship/Primacy from the Episcopacy of Rome. Dr. Mazza further develops his reasoning in response to Roberto de Mattei’s article of 1 July 2020, culminating in two opposing scenarios: In the first, the base premise is that the Vicarship (Primacy) cannot be separated from the Episcopacy of Rome. In the second, the Vicarship can be separated from the See. The results will... astound you!

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