Humanity-first

For an unprecedented third time, Bobby and Andrew are joined on the pod by ThinkLab President and Design Nerds Anonymous host, Amanda Schneider. In another of their always forward-looking conversations, the trio discusses the rapid adoption of AI in the design industry, the barriers to further growth, and how people could be the key to unlocking technology in the future. From there, they dive into the exciting experience of Amanda’s recent TEDx talk being promoted to TED.com, chat about Bobby and Andrew’s unrealized future TED talk dreams, explore the wealth of resources available to curious designers, and, of course, find a way to throw in a few SANDOW plugs.

Connect with our hosts on LinkedIn: 

Bobby Bonett

Andrew Lane

Follow Amanda Schneider on Linkedin

References and resources:

ThinkLab

Perplexity (AI model)

Claude (AI model)

Amanda’s TEDx Talk (Video)

Design Nerds Anonymous (Podcast)

ThinkLab 2025 US Design Industry Benchmark Study (Download)

Everyday AI Podcast

Related and referred BTE Episodes:

Amanda’s First Visit to BTE

Amanda’s Second Visit to BTE

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Where art meets innovation

Bobby and Andrew sit down with a leader who’s made his career on the cutting edge of technology, art and design while working with some of the world’s biggest brands and businesses. As the CEO of the experimental ‘new media’ company, Volvox Labs, Michael leads an interdisciplinary team of designers, technologists, artists and creatives who strive to create meaningful and memorable experiences for people in physical spaces. Along the way, we learn about their hands on approach to solving problems through rapid prototyping, what technologies and practices are pushing their practice of ‘new media art’ forward, how to identify a lunchtime gang of technologists in Brooklyn, and much more.  

This season of Barriers to Entry is presented by Arktura.

Connect with our hosts on LinkedIn: 

Bobby Bonett

Andrew Lane

Follow Michael Luck Schneider on Linkedin

References and resources:

Volvox Labs

Kuka Arms

ISE Europe

Related and referred BTE Episodes:

Leading a studio on the edge of design and innovation with David Schwartz, Founder at HUSH

Building experiential design at scale with (Michael’s former colleague at Gensler), Sarah DiLeo

Thinking at the intersection of design and technology with Rodolfo Agrella, Founder at RADS Studio

Get in touch with us with your questions on emerging technology, innovation and more at [email protected] or drop us a voicemail at the BTE Hotline at 1-917-934-2812.

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This episode of Barriers to Entry was produced by Rob Schulte.

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“That’s the job”

This week, Bobby and Andrew have the pleasure of welcoming a leader who’s made his way up through the ranks of one of the world’s most prestigious architecture firms by doing it all. Eli Hoisington rose up at HOK working in nearly every facet of the design business, which today gives him a bold and informed take as Co-CEO. Peering into Eli’s data-driven lens on the future, they dive into what’s on the mind of a CEO of a global firm during a time of unprecedented disruption discussing everything from making big bets on expansion, carving out a financially responsible approach to investing in innovation, and staying focused on talent through it all.

This season of Barriers to Entry is presented by Arktura.

Connect with our hosts on LinkedIn: 

Bobby Bonett

Andrew Lane

Follow Eli Hoisington on Linkedin

References and resources:

HOK

Related and referred BTE Episodes:

Bill Mandara, CEO at Mancini Duffy

Lionel Ohayon, CEO at iCrave, COO at Journey

John Edelman, CEO at Heller (from 2023)

Get in touch with us with your questions on emerging technology, innovation and more at [email protected] or drop us a voicemail at the BTE Hotline at 1-917-934-2812.

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This episode of Barriers to Entry was produced by Rob Schulte.

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The Innovation Roadmap

To kick Season 3 off with a bang, Bobby and Andrew welcome not one, but two guests to the pod to get into the meat of how AI and human-centric feedback are driving innovation at one of the largest architecture design firms in the country, CannonDesign. CIO, Brooke Grammier and Director of Digital Products, Joel Yow, take the guys through a roadmap to remove barriers to their teams to pave the way for efficiency and creative thinking at scale, all with innovation at the core. Tune in for an inside look at the thought process behind their work as well as insight into the conversations happening at the Innovation Design Consortium’s roundtable.

This season of Barriers to Entry is presented by Arktura.

Connect with our hosts on LinkedIn: 

Bobby Bonett

Andrew Lane

Follow Brooke Grammier and Joel Yow on Linkedin

References and resources:

CannonDesign

Innovation Design Consortium

DeepSeek

Related and referred BTE Episodes:

Bill Mandera, Mancini Duffy and Lionel Ohayon, iCrave on how innovation is infused into the ways of working at large and growing firms.

Fellow Innovation Design Consortium member, Keith Fine from S/L/A/M Collaborative

Get in touch with us with your questions on emerging technology, innovation and more at [email protected] or drop us a voicemail at the BTE Hotline at 1-917-934-2812.

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All great end-of-year specials feature two parts. And that’s why we’re back with Part 2 of Barriers to Entry’s 2024 “Best-of” Clip Show. Andrew and Bobby are back together - and in the holiday spirit - revisiting some of the most memorable moments from the BTE universe in 2024. Hear from Federico Negro (Founder, Canoa), Amanda Schneider (President, ThinkLab), and Lionel Ohayon (Founder and CEO, iCRAVE, and co-Founder and CCO, Journey). The guys start off by exploring AI’s role in design; take a quick detour to evaluate the importance of human experience and design; and wrap it up, where else, with a return to the Sphere project. Plus - it’s everyone’s favorite BTE annual segment, 2025 predictions!

Find Federico on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/federiconegro/

Find Amanda on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandajeanschneider/

Find Lionel on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lionelohayon/

Listen back to the full episodes:

Federico: https://surroundpodcasts.com/episodes/federico-negro-ceo-canoa/

Amanda: https://surroundpodcasts.com/episodes/amanda-schneider-president-thinklab/

Lionel: https://surroundpodcasts.com/episodes/lionel-ohayon-founder-ceo-icrave-co-founder-and-cco-journey/

Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewgflane/

Connect with Bobby on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/bobbybonett/

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It’s Part 1 of Barriers to Entry’s 2024 “Best-of” Clip Show! Andrew Lane and Bobby Bonett revisit the year that was in the BTE universe. Listen in to the year’s most memorable soundbites and topics, featuring appearances from Kelly Knapp (Creative Director, ex-Sphere), Mathieu Lehanneur (Designer) and Eran Chen (Founder and Executive Director, ODA). Andrew and Bobby explore themes of creativity, outside-the-box thinking, and a return to analog design.

Find Kelly on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellycknapp/

Find Eran on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eran-chen-465b446/

Listen back to the full episodes:

Kelly: https://surroundpodcasts.com/episodes/kelly-knapp-creative-director-experiential-ex-sphere/

Mathieu: https://surroundpodcasts.com/episodes/designer-mathieu-lehanneur/

Eran: https://surroundpodcasts.com/episodes/eran-chen-founder-and-principal-oda/

Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewgflane/

Connect with Bobby on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/bobbybonett/

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Enjoy Sense of Space by Turf now available on all podcast platforms.

An architect and designer are on a journey to help their community understand the nuances of designing for the built environment. Join Ella Hazard and Faraz Shah through questions and conversations while they explore all the stuff we interact with as designers, architects, and people.

Please enjoy the following episode: What are the elements of a vibe?

Is “vibe” something we can curate, or is it best when it occurs organically? Faraz and Ella unpack some SAT words to describe how our bodies respond to spaces and ways to design for all senses. By better understanding ourselves and our senses, can we learn how to integrate this approach into the creation of a “vibe”?

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This week, Bobby and Andrew get into their flow state with an enlightening conversation about the intersection of technology and creativity with Magic Leap’s Joel Krieger. In a conversation that ranges from the benefits of stretching outside of your comfort zone, to the differences of the impacts of AR and VR in a creative process, to leaving the world a better place than we found it, we go deep with a pro who’s been on the bleeding edge of designing experiences across the physical and digital world since before the creator of the term ‘phygital’ coined their first portmanteau. Ok, we can’t verify that last statement, but you won’t want to miss this one.

Connect with our hosts on LinkedIn: 

Bobby Bonett

Andrew Lane

Follow Joel Krieger on Linkedin

References and resources:

• Magic Leap
• Magic Leap Assist [VIDEO]
• Magic Leap Workshop [VIDEO]
• Second Story 
• Outside In Podcast 
• Royal Society of Arts 
• AR vs VR - what’s the difference? (PC Mag)

Related and referred BTE Episodes:

Greg Lindsay on blending the physical and digital realities 

David Schwartz of HUSH!, Joel’s collaborator at Magic Leap

Federico Negro - Bobby’s Season 2 “Pick”

Bill Mandera - Andrew’s Season 2 “Pick”

Get in touch with us with your questions on emerging technology, innovation and more at [email protected] or drop us a voicemail at the BTE Hotline at 1-917-934-2812.

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Launch and learn

In our third in a series of pods recorded live at NeoCon 2024, Andrew and Bobby actually don’t outnumber the guest as they’re joined by both Annie Ming of HBF and Cosmo Kramer of Bitreel to talk about how visualization technology is helping HBF re-imagine how to launch their latest product line, the Firma Collection. The conversation dives deeply into the journey of both sales reps and designers to trace how this pair collaborated to define a new way to introduce and hopefully endear a product to its core audiences. Along the way, we steam up the NeoCon Podcast Studio with five bodies, over-plug SANDOW (just a little) and of course have a word or two on the state of ‘the metaverse’ in the worlds of furniture and design.

This episode was recorded in the NeoCon Podcast Studio Powered by SURROUND and Sponsored by SnapCab.

Connect with our hosts on LinkedIn: 

Bobby Bonett

Andrew Lane

Follow Annie Ming and Cosmo Kramer on LinkedIn

References and resources:

• Firma Table Configurator
• HBF
• Bitreel
• Kubi by Barbara Berry 
• NeoCon Design Scene by SANDOW

Related and referred BTE Episodes:

Josh Rubin and Evan Orensten from Cool Hunting - the only other double guest episode in pod history

Lisbeth Jimenez, Designer at MKDA, on the potential for 3D visualization

Get in touch with us with your questions on emerging technology, innovation and more at [email protected] or drop us a voicemail at the BTE Hotline at 1-917-934-2812.

Discover more shows from SURROUND at surroundpodcasts.com. 

This episode of Barriers to Entry was produced by Rob Schulte.

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This week, Bobby and Andrew welcome a leader who’s obsessed with the intersection of architecture and technology and the evolution of the practice as a whole.  The founder of established firm, ICRAVE and more recently co-founder of innovative customer experience firm, Journey, Lionel Ohayon joins to share some powerful ideas on how everything is shifting.  Discussing everything how digital twinning can become the backbone of an architectural practice, to how talent needs to solve for ‘why’, to AI’s emerging role and even why he’s called his firm a “fish dog”, it’s a conversation you won’t want to miss.

Connect with our hosts on LinkedIn: 

Bobby Bonett

Andrew Lane

Follow Lionel Ohayon on Linkedin

References and resources:

• iCRAVE
• Journey
• Sphere
• Squint/Opera

Related and referred BTE Episodes:

Sarah DiLeo, Gensler on immersive design

Bill Mandara, Mancini Duffy on the evolving practice of architecture 

Yehia Madkour, Perkins & Will on innovation at scale inside firms

Get in touch with us with your questions on emerging technology, innovation and more at [email protected] or drop us a voicemail at the BTE Hotline at 1-917-934-2812.

Discover more shows from SURROUND at surroundpodcasts.com. 

This episode of Barriers to Entry was produced by Rob Schulte.

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