In this episode I get a chance to chat with Chef John Bates from InterStellar BBQ in Austin, Texas. We talk about his journey from Corpus Christi to Portland to Austin. All the while he's been working in restaurants since he was 17 years old. His first endeavor on his own was Noble Sandwich Company(http://noblesandwiches.com) which he expanded to a second location then pivoted turn one location into InterStellar BBQ because he wanted to spend more time with his family and have a daytime job. We talk deeply into how not to start a sandwich business, what it's like to be on Diners, Drive-ins, and Dives and the nature of nature of today’s bbq business. Of course we end chatting in depth about his unique menu.