If you want to step into a marketing leadership position you have to listen to this podcast.
In this episode, we are joined by Mason Cosby - the Director of Growth at Gravity Global and host of The Marketing Ladder. Mason learned a lot by interviewing marketing leaders on his podcast and in this episode he shares his findings!
We learn what all of them have in common and what are the qualities of successful leaders. Mason shares why our careers are like huge experiments where we have to try out new things to see what works best for us.
He also explains why having a side hustle is important for your career and shows that the best really try out new things to learn what works best for them, even if they have to step out of their comfort zone.
At the end of the conversation, we look at the differences between marketing and sales and what one can learn from the other. After all, the best marketers know how to sell and the best sales professionals know how to do marketing!
The Marketing Ladder on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1ZgA5WCH8ZXt3KAMYccWVE?si=d968c6bf20fb4979
Mason Cosby Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/masoncosby/
Interview:
0:50 - What should every B2B Leader know, if they want to step into a leadership position?
3:30 - Successful leaders step into positions when they aren't qualified - no matter how much you prepare you sometimes have to take the step to see if you're qualified
4:50 - Your entire career is actually an experiment - you have to try things to see what works best for you and sometimes it means taking a step back
7:30 - Mason shares his experience in leadership roles and what he learned
9:40 - Why do leaders have to have their own identity separate from their day job?
13:50 - What if the return is not tangible straight on ROI? + a great example with a Lama
16:40 - We touch on colors and iconography psychology and its importance
19:00 What have the leaders of today's marketing in common? Stories from his podcast.
21:25 - I can make an impact with sales but I can change an industry with marketing
22:44 - The most dangerous marketers are the ones who know how to sell
23:26 - Do you think more people from sales will transition to marketing?
26:05 - Transitioning from marketing to sales
29:00- What would you say is the biggest takeaway from our conversation?
30:45 - Outro - where you can find Mason and what he does at Gravity Global
33:00 - Final thought when you are a seller or a marketer - how much pipeline Mason self-sourced thanks to posting frequently on LinkedIn
34:00 - Who should I interview next?