Guest Bio: Cathy Sall works at Our Daily Bread Ministries as a Project Manager. Outside of work, she enjoys spending time with her daughter Caili, either here in Michigan or out in Utah, mentoring a child through KIDS HOPE USA, attending Bible Study Fellowship, or reading. Cathy and Caili are planning a trip back to China in the near future, and her lifelong dream is to get to the Holy Land someday. 

Guest Bio: Caili Sall is studying social work at Southern Utah University. Caili has an adventurous spirit. She took a gap year between high school and college and spent 3 months in South Africa and 3 months in the Holy Land. She will be venturing out to Mannheim, Germany to study during her spring semester in 2025. She also loves running, snowboarding, and hiking with her friends. 

Show Summary: When we reflect on our stories, we are often left with memories that carry both joy and grief. Perhaps you got a job promotion while mourning the loss of a loved one, or you got bad news while celebrating a big event. We often have seasons of celebration that mix with times of mourning. Cathy and Caili Sall are a mother-daughter duo who have learned how to hold all of the feelings that come with adoption. Cathy was a single woman when she felt God call her to adopt Caili, an orphan in China. Together, they’ve learned how to navigate the ups and downs of their story while acknowledging the grief and pain that come with it. Join hosts Eryn Eddy Adkins and Vivian Mabuni as they hear the testimony of Cathy and Caili during this God Hears Her conversation.

Notes and Quotes: 

• “In whatever happens along this journey, I need to trust that [God] is still walking beside me, and leading me and guiding me.” —Cathy Sall 
• “If you’re praying right now [about adoption] or God lays it on your heart, He will walk you through it. He will guide you through it, and He will walk each step with you.” —Cathy Sall 
• “God gives us grace; He extends it to us so we can show ourselves grace [in our stories].” —Caili Sall 
• “There’s a lot of sorrow and grief in my adoption story. But I don’t necessarily realize those bad things. To me, when I gain those strengths and things as a part of my story, I feel like I’m closer to the heart of Jesus.” —Caili Sall 

Verses: 

•  Ecclesiastes 1:18

Links: 

• Caili’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cailisall/
• Cathy’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/cathy.sall
• God Hears Her website: https://godhearsher.org/
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• Eryn’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eryneddy/
• Vivian’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vivmabuni/
• Elisa’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elisamorganauthor/
• Our Daily Bread Ministries website: https://www.odbm.org/

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