Guest Bio: Dawn Mann Sanders (MDiv, Bethel Seminary) is an associate minister at First Baptist Church of Glenarden (FBCG), where she serves as the director of the sermon-based life groups ministry. Her passion is expository teaching and sharing the wonderful insights God has shown her in His Word. She does this through writing weekly discussion guides for life groups as well as teaching several in-depth Bible studies. Dawn has written and taught extensively on overcoming adversity and creating a new life, both at FBCG and on her personal blog. 

Show Summary: When was the last time you faced loss? We will all, unfortunately, be touched by grief at some point in our lives, and we learn that it is often an ebb and flow—grief is not linear no matter how much healing you’ve done. After several miscarriages and then the sudden and unexpectant loss of her husband, Dawn Mann Sanders got to know grief well. In her suffering, Dawn experienced intense anger towards God as she wondered, What now, Lord? Join hosts Elisa Morgan and Eryn Eddy Adkins as they hear Dawn’s journey of finding herself secure in God’s care after facing so much grief. 

Notes and Quotes:  

“God, how do I know that I’m Christian when I am this angry? And He told me, ‘You know I’m going to heal you.’ ” —Dawn Mann Sanders 

“Its okay to be angry at God and with God. It’s okay. God can handle it—look at Job! God can handle our anger. He can handle our pride.” —Dawn Mann Sanders 

“I couldn’t pray for myself, but I could pray for other people, and that helped me stay connected to God.” —Dawn Mann Sanders 

Verses Mentioned in the Episode:  

Genesis 1:1-8 – God separating light and dark, water and sky 

James 2:19 

Psalm 18:11 

The book of Job 

Related Episodes: 

• GHH Ep 20 – Dealing with Loss with Eryn and Elisa: https://godhearsher.org/podcast/dealing-with-loss/ 
• GHH Ep 96 – Growing Through Grief wit Karen Booker Schelhaas: https://godhearsher.org/podcast/growing-through-grief/ 
• GHH Ep 139 – Moving Through Grief with Chriscynethia Floyd: https://godhearsher.org/podcast/moving-through-grief/ 

Links:  

• Dawn Mann Sanders Website: https://dawnmannsanders.com/ 
• Dawn’s Book When Your World Ends: https://a.co/d/iOQL72p 
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Guest Bio: Heather Kolb is the Associate Director of Product Development and a neuroscience professional for Pure Desire. She has a Bachelor’s degree in Psychology, a Master’s degree in Criminal Behavior, and is a certified Pastoral Sex Addiction Professional (PSAP) through the International Institute for Trauma and Addiction Professionals (IITAP). Heather has been trained in the Multidimensional Partner Trauma Model (MPTM) through The Association of Partners of Sex Addicts Trauma Specialists (APSATS). She worked several years as a college professor prior to joining Pure Desire. She is also a speaker and contributing author to Digital Natives: Raising an Online Generation, Unraveled: Managing Love, Sex, and Relationships, Betrayal & Beyond, and Authentically You.  

Show Summary: When was a moment in your life when you felt betrayed? Heather Kolb was in the thick of parenting young children when she found out her husband was being dishonest with her and battling sexual addictions. Scared and heartbroken, Heather stepped away from the church and managed things on her own until she found Pure Desire Ministries. Join hosts Elisa Morgan and Eryn Eddy Adkins as they hear from Heather about her story and discover how we can recover from patterns of addiction during this God Hears Her conversation. 

Notes and Quotes:  

“My life felt out of control, and yet I had been doing all the things that I had been taught to do in the church. I had been praying and reading my Bible and waiting for God to deliver me from this unbearable situation, and [what I had prayed for] happened, but it didn’t happen the way that I prayed for it to.” —Heather Kolb 

“There are parts of my story that I wish I had answers to and I don’t have any closure on. But I do know that God held me through—even when making bold decisions that other people disagreed with.” —Eryn Eddy Adkins 

“What are those core messages, the negative core beliefs that you have about yourself?” —Heather Kolb 

“When discovery or disclosure [of a sexual addiction] happens, you are walking into the middle of a story.” —Heather Kolb 

"The best way to find healing for yourself—not even for the marriage, because that decision might come later—is to find safety and stability and reclaim your identity in Christ by joining a group of other women who are walking a similar road of healing.” —Heather Kolb 

“I kept silent, I quietly left the church, I didn’t tell anyone. That piece of it really left a hole in my heart for a lot of years because I couldn’t trust anyone.” —Heather Kolb 

“[A safe group of women] is going to be the thing that helps you to build safety and stability, not only for your marriage but for you—as a person and as a daughter of Christ—to find who you are in the midst of this messiness.” —Heather Kolb 

Related Episodes: 

• GHH Ep 145 – Sitting on the Sidelines with Bethany Toney: https://godhearsher.org/podcast/sitting-on-the-sidelines/ 
• GHH Ep 168 – Walking Through Infidelity with Jami Nato: https://godhearsher.org/podcast/walking-through-infidelity/ 
• GHH Ep 196 – Seeking Pure Desires with Ashley Jameson: https://godhearsher.org/podcast/seeking-pure-desires/ 

Links:  

• Pure Desire Ministries Website: https://puredesire.org/ 
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Guest Bio: Ashley and her husband, Jon, discovered Pure Desire during the devastation and erosion of their marriage due to a pornography addiction. After four years of providing Pure Desire groups for men, women, and youth at their local church, restoration has taken place. As the Associate Director of Women’s Groups for Pure Desire, Ashley provides leadership and training to their Regional Group Advisors (RGAs) throughout the country. She has been instrumental in training new leaders to advance the message of hope and healing in the church and community. Ashley is a contributing author to Betrayal and Beyond; Unraveled: Managing Love, Sex, and Relationships; and Authentically You. 

Show Summary: When was a time that you realized you were building an unhealthy pattern or routine? Sin can be sneaky; one choice can lead to a series of devastating habits that unravel good things in your life. Ashley Jameson felt a hurtful distance in her marriage that eventually led to her digging through her husband’s phone. As she did, she discovered that he was hiding a porn addiction. Have you experienced that? Do you have a loved one in that situation? Join hosts, Elisa Morgan and Eryn Eddy Adkins as they hear Ashley’s testimony and learn how to begin restoration after discovering a love or sex addiction. You don’t want to miss this powerful God Hears Her conversation.  

Notes and Quotes:  

“It is all about Jesus, but somewhere along the line, people hurt us, so we stopped believing the truth and started believing lies. We started living through this filter that we weren’t supposed to be living through.” —Ashley Jameson 

“We need to go back to the beginning to figure out what happened that made us stop believing what God says about us and understand our value in Christ.” —Ashley Jameson 

“Bringing your mess to the church is something that is becoming more and more acceptable, but it still has so many challenges.” —Eryn Eddy Adkins 

“I can’t expect perfection; I can’t idolize my husband. He is his own messy person with his own messy relationship with God.” —Ashley Jameson 

“Give yourself space. Know that if both of you are willing to do the work, it will absolutely change. It will be radically different, and it won’t always hurt as much as it does now.” —Ashley Jameson 

“When God says that He can transform you by the renewing of your mind, that is very real. You do not have to feel this way.” —Ashley Jameson 

Verses:  

Romans 12:2 

Related Episodes: 

• GHH Ep 109 – Let’s Talk About Married Sex with Debra Fileta: https://godhearsher.org/podcast/lets-talk-about-married-sex/ 
• GHH Ep 145 – Sitting on the Sidelines with Bethany Toney: https://godhearsher.org/podcast/sitting-on-the-sidelines/ 
• GHH Ep 168 – Walking Through Infidelity with Jami Nato: https://godhearsher.org/podcast/walking-through-infidelity/ 

Links:  

• Pure Desire Ministries Website: https://puredesire.org/ 
• Pure Desire Ministries Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/puredesirepdmi/ 
• Pure Desire Ministries Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PureDesirePDMI/ 
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Guest Bio: Ellen Wildman holds a BA in Bible and Ministry to Women from Moody Bible Institute and a MA in Biblical and Theological Studies from Denver Seminary. Through her writing, she seeks to create space for nuance, personality, and joy within theology, believing that Christian academia has room for everyone. Her first book, Single and Not Sorry, was an Amazon bestseller in Dating and Relationships for six weeks. Ellen lives in Nashville, Tennessee, with her spicy cat, Rey. 

Show Summary: When someone compliments you, how do you usually respond? During those moments, it’s easy to brush off the kind words or ignore the encouragement. When it comes to our body and appearance, we often have more negative thoughts than positive. This has led Ellen Wildman on a journey to discover how God views His creation and how that can impact the way we view our own bodies. Join host Eryn Eddy Adkins and Ellen as they talk about what the Bible says when it comes to our earthly bodies. You don’t want to miss this God Hears Her conversation about body image.  

Notes and Quotes:  

“The biggest lie is that our body is disconnected from God and disconnected from our faith.” —Ellen Wildman 

“Every part of me is made in God’s image, including my body.”—Ellen Wildman 

“Sometimes God is calling me to rest in Him and it’s not by reading Scripture, but my giving me a visual of resting in His arms.” —Eryn Eddy Adkins 

“I will never fully be able to accept my body outside of seeing it as God’s creation.” —Ellen Wildman 

“The more I thought about being made in God’s image, the more I realized that it really affected every part of my life. It helps me to see my body as beloved and as good because it was made by God, designed by Him, and blessed by Him. It also helps me to give others more grace because I can see them as being made in God’s image.” —Ellen Wildman 

“Even those who fit into the ‘ideal’ [image] are struggling with the same things.” —Ellen Wildman 

“It’s not people that have created these [standards]. Maybe we perpetuate the standards a bit, but we haven’t created and maintained them. It’s really diet culture and the industry of always making us feel less-than. To me, that feels really unifying in that we can unify against them instead of against each other.” —Ellen Wildman 

“The more I have worked on how I see my own body and how I feel at home in my own body has changed the way that I speak to others because I want them to feel this way too.” —Ellen Wildman 

“The way we see our bodies is important, but it'’s not the most important thing.” —Ellen Wildman 

“Reflecting God is an essential part of who I am. I am made in His image. His living, breathing handiwork.” —Ellen Wildman 

“God created everything around me, but He only created humans in His image. We are the only thing that He created in His image. Why did He do that? What does He want me to do with that?” —Ellen Wildman 

“The idea of being at home in your body helps us believe that we are worthy of self-discovery, and we are worthy of feeling at home in our bodies with God’s help.” —Ellen Wildman 

Verses:  

Luke 8:1-2 Mary Magdalene being healed by Jesus 

Psalm 4:8  

Genesis 1:27 

Judges 4:4-5  

Judges 5:3 

Related Episodes: 

• GHH Ep 24 – When We Feel We Aren’t Enough with Laura Smith: https://godhearsher.org/podcast/when-we-feel-we-arent-enough/ 
• GHH Ep 44 – The Comparison Trap with Bree Rostic: https://godhearsher.org/podcast/the-comparison-trap-with-bree-rostic/ 
• GHH Ep 118 – Reimagining Age with Eryn & Elisa: https://godhearsher.org/podcast/reimagining-age/ 
• GHH Ep 125 – Your True Worth with Cassandra Speer: https://godhearsher.org/podcast/your-true-worth/ 
• GHH Ep 167 – Aging Gratefully with Heather Creekmore: https://godhearsher.org/podcast/aging-gratefully/ 

Links:  

• Already Whole Devotional: https://www.amazon.com/Already-Whole-Devotions-Being-Home-ebook/dp/B0F55RMYZN 
• Ellen Wildman’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ellen_wildman_so/ 
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Join Elisa Morgan, Eryn Eddy Adkins, and Vivian Mabuni for all new episodes of God Hears Her starting August 11, 2025.  You’ll laugh, cry, relate . . . but most of all feel understood and uplifted as you tune in to these witty and wise women and their stellar line up of guests.  Don’t miss a single episode starting August 11th!

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Guest Bio: Storytelling is Melissa Harrison’s passion. She has been a TV news anchor and reporter for more than 20 years at television and radio stations around the country including at WNBC-TV in New York City, WFAA-TV, and CBS Radio in Dallas. While she is most passionate about telling other people’s stories, she never imagined that she would one day find herself on “the other side” of the headline until she received a phone call that changed her life forever. Melissa was 25 years old and hosting a dinner party when a detective called to tell her that her mom had been murdered. To make matters worse, she discovered that the crime was committed by someone she knew and loved dearly. In an instant, her world changed forever. After experiencing what it was like to have her personal life and deepest pain portrayed in the media, she is writing a book about her story in the hopes that it will encourage anyone who is experiencing pain and loss to know that they can make it through—and to serve as a reminder for journalists of the great privilege and responsibility they have when reporting on other people’s stories of tragedy and pain. She now uses her storytelling and leadership skills to connect people and resources to organizations that empower journalists and business leaders to make a positive impact on the world. One of her greatest passions is connecting and supporting women leaders by creating community and space for them to be fully seen and known. Through women’s events, executive cohorts, retreats, and conferences, she helps women leaders experience healing and renewed purpose through the transforming power of community. 

Show Summary: When was a time in your life where you felt distant from God? How did He bring you back to Him? Last week, we learned about a tragic event that happened in Melissa Harrison’s life. The tragedy caused her to doubt God’s presence as she felt like He wasn’t there for her and her mother. This week, Elisa Morgan and Eryn Eddy Adkins are back to learn about how God pursued Melissa to bring her back into a relationship with Him. Learn about how Melissa overcame her spiritual crisis with God in this conclusion for season 14 of God Hears Her.  

Notes and Quotes:  

“The thread of His presence [is present] even when we feel like He’s not there.” —Melissa Harrison 

“The Lord sees me. He has been with me all the days of my life. He knows.” —Melissa Harrison 

“We’ve got to stop pretending like we have it all together in this Christian community. We’ve got to be honest when we’re struggling and be able to do so in a safe way, but also in a way that we can really receive the help we need.” —Melissa Harrison  

“Who are you, not compared to one another? What is weakening or polluting what God has designed you to be? What’s in your life that doesn’t belong: is it a habit, a mindset, a relationship?” —Melissa Harrison 

“The biggest thing is just to know that you’re not alone. God sees you. None of your tears are lost. He is holding you right now—even if this is a time of frustration or if you’re feeling forgotten or overlooked, or just questioning: where is God in this moment?” —Melissa Harrison 

“Know that this is not the end of your story. It feels like it sometimes, and it can be terrifying to think that it may not get better or that there’s not going to be a new beginning or a way out, but this is not the end of your story. God is going to be able to use all that you’re going through.” —Melissa Harrison 

“God’s going to be able to use your story to really help someone else. Not only is it going to be redeemed for you, but you’re going to be a light for other people. On the other side is going to be a faith that is very rich, that you’re not going to want to give up.” —Melissa Harrison 

Verses:  

Romans 8:28 

Related Episodes: 

• Melissa Harrison 

Links:  

• Melissa’s Website: https://www.melissaharrison.net/ 

• Melissa’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/melissaharrisontv/ 

• 4Word’s Website: https://4wordwomen.org/ 

• God Hears Her website: https://go.odb.org/ghh191  

Guest Bio: Storytelling is Melissa Harrison’s passion. She has been a TV news anchor and reporter for over 20 years at television and radio stations around the country, including WNBC-TV in New York City, WFAA-TV, and CBS Radio in Dallas. While she is most passionate about telling other people’s stories, she never imagined that she would one day find herself on “the other side” of the headline until she received a shocking phone call. Melissa was 25 years old and hosting a dinner party when a detective called to tell her that her mom had been murdered. To make matters worse, she discovered that the crime had been committed by someone she knew and loved dearly. In an instant, her world changed forever. After experiencing what it was like to have her personal life and deepest hurt portrayed in the media, she is writing a book about her story in the hopes that it will encourage anyone who is experiencing pain and loss to know that they can make it through—and that it will serve as a reminder for journalists of the great privilege and responsibility they have reporting on other people’s stories of tragedy and pain. She now uses her storytelling and leadership skills to connect people and resources to organizations that empower journalists and business leaders to make a positive impact on the world. One of her greatest passions is connecting and supporting women leaders by creating community and space for them to be fully seen and known. Through women’s events, executive cohorts, retreats, and conferences, she helps women in leadership experience healing and renewed purpose through the transforming power of community. 

Show Summary: Have you ever received a phone call that forever altered the course of your life? Melissa Harrison was beginning her career as a journalist when she got a call that her mother had been murdered. In an instant, everything changed. Melissa withdrew from her faith and poured herself into her career. Join hosts Elisa Morgan and Eryn Eddy Adkins as they visit this time in Melissa’s life and walk through the earth-shattering news. You don’t want to miss part one of this God Hears Her conversation. 

Notes and Quotes:  

“When there was suffering, horrific suffering in my story, that was when I really started to question God’s goodness. Is He really omnipresent, and if so, where was He? How do I trust Him?” —Melissa Harrison 

“There were a lot of questions that I was very scared to ask. I didn’t really know how to process an anger with God or to process my questions to God. Am I allowed to question God? Is it okay to do so?" —Melissa Harrison 

“You love somebody so much and you wish you could save them from themselves and the mistakes that they’ve made.” —Melissa Harrison 

Verses:  

Jeremiah 29:11 

Romans 8:28 

Links:  

• Melissa’s Website: https://www.melissaharrison.net/ 

• Melissa’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/melissaharrisontv/ 

• 4Word’s Website: https://4wordwomen.org/ 

• God Hears Her website: https://go.odb.org/ghh191  

• Watch the episode on the God Hears Her YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@GodHearsHerODBM 

• Share Your Story: https://godhearsher.org/share-your-story/ 

Guest Bio: Lisa-Jo Baker is a bestselling author, lapsed lawyer, current acquisitions editor for HarperCollins, and the author of Never Unfriended, The Middle Matters, and Surprised by Motherhood. She is also the co-host of the Out of the Ordinary podcast. Her critically acclaimed memoir, It Wasn't Roaring, It Was Weeping, released in 2024, described by Publishers Weekly as "Poignant and searching, this leaves a mark." With a BA in English/prelaw from Gordon College and a JD from the University of Notre Dame Law School, Lisa-Jo has lived and worked on three continents in the human rights field and subsequently spent nearly a decade leading the online community of women called (in)courage as their editor in chief and community manager. Originally from South Africa, Lisa-Jo now lives just outside Washington, D.C., where she met and fell in love with her husband in the summer of ’96. Their story together spans decades, languages, countries, books, three very opinionated children, and one dog. 

Show Summary: What does your relationship with your earthly father look like? For some people, they have a very close relationship with their dad, which makes it easy to celebrate Father’s Day. But others may have experienced deep pain or even abuse from their dads. This Father’s Day, Lisa-Jo Baker speaks to the people who have experienced deep hurt in their relationship with their father. She shares with hosts Eryn Eddy Adkins and Vivian Mabuni how her recent healing was completely guided by the Lord and led to the restoration of her relationship with the angry father from her childhood. This God Hears Her conversation walks you through Lisa-Jo’s powerful story of redemption.  

Notes and Quotes:  

“Our parents are neither all hero nor all villain. They are human people like us—they are a mix of things.” —Lisa-Jo Baker 

"The patterns we pick up from our families of origin are like a language that you are learning subconsciously all the time. We can only change the patterns once we recognize them.” —Lisa-Jo Baker 

“If we have unhealthy patterns in our childhood, there’s a sense of resistance: How do I make space, how do I breathe, how do I feel safe?” —Lisa-Jo Baker 

“This is the thing about the Lord;, he will take you slowly step by step. He will do the work. He will initiate. He will invite. He will orchestrate. It will be in His timing.” —Lisa-Jo Baker 

“He is glacial in His timing, with such tenderness and such love. You don’t have to be afraid. My hope is that by looking at my closet and seeing what happened when we started to unpack it, that the Holy Spirit would say to you, ‘okay, are you ready to look at your closet?’ and you would trust Him with what comes next.” —Lisa-Jo Baker 

“The truth of who [God] is gets braided together with the truth of who your heavenly Father is, and the work of our adult lives is separating out what is real and what isn’t.” —Lisa Jo Baker 

“There are certain key milestones that happen in a life, and the Holy Spirit is quick to come in alongside those moments.” —Lisa-Jo Baker 

“He loves you so much that He had me write this story because He actually wants to meet you in your story.” —Lisa-Jo Baker 

“When you invite the Holy Spirit into [the memories] with you, He does begin a sacred process of bearing witness to what happened. It’s like having someone in the room with you saying ‘that shouldn’t have happened’, ‘that was wrong,’ ‘that was terrible’.” —Lisa-Jo Baker 

“The power of believing in the kind of God we do—who is not constrained by time—is that God is in fact able to move in and out of your timeline.” —Lisa-Jo Baker 

Related Episodes: 

• GHH Ep 93 – Supporting Fathers with Dr. Meg Meeker: https://godhearsher.org/podcast/supporting-fathers/ 

• GHH Ep 129 – Feeling, Not Fixing with Ryan Clevenger: https://godhearsher.org/podcast/supporting-fathers/ 

• GHH Ep 160 – Intentional Fatherhood with Matt Adkins: https://godhearsher.org/podcast/intentional-fatherhood/ 

Links:  

• Lisa-Jo’s Book: https://www.amazon.com/Wasnt-Roaring-Was-Weeping-Interpreting/dp/0525652868 

• Lisa-Jo’s Website: https://lisajobaker.com...

Guest Bio: Jena Holliday is the author of Sacred Creativity and a full-time artist, author, entrepreneur, and storyteller. She is the creator and owner of Spoonful of Faith, an illustration and design studio. With just a bit of faith, she walked away from her mainstream marketing job to embrace her passion for art. What started as a hobby eventually evolved into a full-time commitment to spread kindness and hope through her artwork and words. That commitment blossomed into a blog and shop, aptly named Spoonful of Faith, and has thus become not only a successful business but a cultural beacon. Jena has been featured on Good Morning America, Ebony, Essence, People, Nylon, The Wall Street Journal, Yahoo, Artful Living, and many more prominent outlets.  

Show Summary: What gifts do you think God has blessed you with? Do you see creativity in your gifts? Oftentimes we neglect to notice the diverse ways that God has blessed each of us with creativity. It does not always have to be writing, drawing, painting, or doing a craft. Jena Holliday has found that being creative can grant us a different type of connection with the Lord. Join hosts Elisa Morgan and Eryn Eddy Adkins as they learn about sacred creativity with Jena during this God Hears Her conversation. 

Notes and Quotes:  

“Why are you asking everyone else where to go, who to be, and what do except the One who created you?” —Jena Holliday 

“God didn’t make a mistake when He made us who we are. It wasn’t by chance; it wasn’t a coincidence. It was on purpose. That really helped me to step into the fullness of the voice that the Lord had given me.” —Jena Holliday 

“What I have learned is that there is a hunger to see the different ways that the image of God is reflected on the earth. It’s cool to be in this position as an artist and illustrator because I have the unique role of creating something in a visual way that doesn’t require words. It was always important to me that I showcase different women and different images and illustrations of people because I wanted them to feel seen. I wanted people to know that they were loved, heard, and that their stories matter.” —Jena Holliday 

“You should use [your gift] as a way to honor the Gift Giver, the One who has given it to you. We all have a corner of this earth where we get to use our gifts. Whatever God does to multiply it, that’s Him—that’s not on us. That’s not our responsibility.” —Jena Holliday 

“If you have something that God has given you and it’s still neatly wrapped in a box, I think that’s an invitation to open it up, spend a little time with it, and see what He does with it.” —Jena Holliday 

“Everyone should take the risk to use the gifts that God has given them.” —Jena Holliday 

“The way that Jesus loves us is so deep is that He will come after you. He will come find you again and guide you back to where He would like you to be and you get to keep walking forward together.” —Jena Holliday 

Related Episodes: 

• Ep 141: Rethinking Creativity with Rachel Marie Kang: https://godhearsher.org/podcast/rethinking-creativity/ 

• Ep 163: Mindful Creativity with Anh Lin: https://godhearsher.org/podcast/mindful-creativity/ 

Links:  

• Jena’s book Sacred Creativity: https://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Creativity-Inspiration-Reclaim-God-Given/dp/0593581474 

• Jena Holliday’s Website: https://www.spoonfuloffaith.com/ 

• Jena’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aspoonfuloffaith/ 

• God Hears Her website: https://go.odb.org/ghh191  

Guest Bio: Whitney Lowe is an author who wants to see young women excited about God’s work: in the Bible, in history, in the world, and in them. She writes and creates on Instagram, previously known as Scribble Devos, a project born from the realization that young women simply do not interact with the Bible enough to be changed by its truth. Whitney is passionate about disrupting the toxic scroll of social media with hope, peace, and light straight from Scripture. She lives in Denver, Colorado, with her husband, who is a pastor, and their two young children. 

Show Summary: When you read the Bible, what stands out to you most about Jesus? His kindness? His servant heart? His patience? Whitney Lowe has been challenged through different seasons of her life to grow spiritually in different ways to become more like Jesus. Whether it’s conviction about an eating disorder or reading the Bible out loud to young kids, she’s determined to shine her light to lead others closer to Christ. Join hosts Elisa Morgan and Eryn Eddy Adkins as they learn how Whitney has spiritually grown through different life seasons. This God Hears Her conversation will encourage and inspire you! 

Notes and Quotes:  

“If He is calling us into the service of hungry people then God wants us fed too.” —Whitney Lowe 

“If you are a parent, if you are a mother, that is spiritual formation. That is doing the work of ‘quiet time’ and maybe even more so because it is real and is happening in real time. If you allow God into that space, He is doing the transformative work.” —Whitney Lowe 

“What if we just allowed God to spiritually form us in the struggles that are coming anyway, and we invited Him into those spaces through prayer?” —Whitney Lowe 

“I am a really big believer that we as a society are overthinking what it looks like to be sacrificial and servant-hearted. We start to think: ‘what organization do I need to start’ or ‘where am I supposed to put all my money for the year, who am I supposed to be giving to.’. When in actuality I think so many of us live in places where if we just open our eyes to our neighbors, we would see people who needed help and needed service.” —Whitney Lowe 

“I might not see the end result of that little act of faithfulness, but I know that God calls me to care about people.” —Whitney Lowe 

“We have to be okay, as believers, with people knowing that we are deeply flawed. You have to be okay with the reconciliation that might have to come after that sometimes and the fact that you don’t have to be strong because God will put people in your life that can be.” —Whitney Lowe 

Verses:  

Hosea 

Parable of the Sower: Matthew 13 

Related Episodes: 

• GHH Ep 86 – When We Pray Like Jesus: https://godhearsher.org/podcast/when-we-pray-like-jesus/ 

• GHH Ep 120 – Let’s Talk About Spiritual Formation with Shalini Bennett: https://godhearsher.org/podcast/lets-talk-about-spiritual-formation/ 

Links:  

• Whitney Lowe’s Devotional: https://www.amazon.com/Set-Your-Eyes-Higher-Devotional/dp/0310464404 

• Whitney Lowe’s Website: https://www.scribbledevos.com/about 

• Whitney Lowe’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/whitneypiersonlowe/?hl=en