Behaviour Speak with Ben Reiman

In this conversation, Camille Proctor, the executive director of the Color of Autism Foundation, shares her personal journey of founding the organization to support families of color affected by autism. She discusses the unique challenges faced by Black families in accessing timely diagnoses and culturally competent support. The conversation explores the foundation's initiatives, including a unique parent training program and community-building efforts, aimed at empowering families and addressing disparities in autism services. Proctor emphasizes the importance of understanding the needs of autistic individuals and their families, advocating for better resources and support systems, and fostering a sense of community among parents.

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Contact:

https://thecolorofautism.org/

https://www.camilleproctor.com/

https://www.instagram.com/colorofautism/

Articles and Books Referenced

Kaiser, K., Villalobos, M. E., Locke, J., Iruka, I. U., Proctor, C., & Boyd, B. (2022). A culturally grounded autism parent training program with Black parents. Autism, 26(3), 716-726. https://doi.org/10.1177/13623613211073373

Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced

Episode 171 with Dr. Brian Boyd

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-171-empowering-black-voices-in-autism-research/

Episode 98 with Dr. Evan Auguste

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-98-black-liberation-psychology-a-conversation-with-dr-evan-auguste/

In this episode,  Ben speaks with Drs. Traci Cihon, Kiyo Kazaoka, and Albert Malkin. This conversation delves into the emerging field of Culturo-Behavior Science, exploring its historical roots, practical applications, and the personal journeys of the speakers within this discipline. The discussion highlights the importance of interdisciplinary collaboration, the challenges faced by behavior analysts, and the opportunities for future growth and career paths in this evolving field.

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Contact:

The Culturo-Behavior Science Innovation Lab

[email protected]

Traci Cihon

https://www.linkedin.com/in/traci-cihon-801bb9324/

Albert Malkin

https://www.edu.uwo.ca/about/faculty-profiles/albert-malkin/index.html

Doctor of Education Program at the University of Western Ontario

https://www.edu.uwo.ca/graduate-education/edd/applied-behaviour-analysis.html

Kiyo Kazaoka

https://www.linkedin.com/in/kiyo-kazaoka-01329638/

Articles and Books Referenced

Cihon, T. M. (2023). Advancing research and practice in Culturo-Behavior Science: A call to action. Behavior and Social Issues, 32(2), 339-359.

Cihon, T. M., & Mattaini, M. A. (Eds.). (2020). Behavior science perspectives on culture and community. Springer.

Krispin, J. Culturo-behavioral Hypercycles and the Metacontingency: Incorporating Self-Organizing Dynamics into an Expanded Model of Cultural Change. Perspect Behav Sci 42, 869–887 (2019). https://doi.org/10.1007/s40614-019-00212-3

Malagodi, E. F. (1986). On radicalizing behaviorism: A call for cultural analysis. The Behavior Analyst, 9, 1–17. https://doi.org/10.1007/bf03391925

Malagodi, E. F., & Jackson, K. (1989). Behavior analysts and cultural analysis: Troubles and issues. The Behavior Analyst, 12, 17–33. https://doi.org/10.1007/BF03392474

Mattaini, M. A. (2013). Strategic nonviolent power: The science of satyagraha. Athabasca University Press.

Mobus, G. E., & Kalton, M. C. (2014). Principles of systems science. Springer.

Mobus, G. E. (2022). Systems science: Theory, analysis, modeling, and design. Springer Nature.

Reid, D. H., Luyben, P. D., Rawers, R. J., & Bailey, J. S. (1976). Newspaper recycling behavior: The effects of prompting and proximity of containers. Environment and Behavior, 8(3), 471-482. https://doi.org/10.1177/136327527600800307 

Skinner, B. F. (1981). Selection by consequences. Science, 213(4507), 501–504. https://doi.org/10.1126/science.7244649

Links: 

Culturo-Behavior Science Verified Course Sequence

https://www.abainternational.org/vcs/culturo-behavior-science.aspx

Behaviorists for Social Responsibility

https://bfsr.abainternational.org/

https://iba.abainternational.org/2024/10/28/behaviorists-for-social-responsibility-sig/

Ontario Behaviourists for Social Responsibility 

https://www.obfsr.org/

Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced

Episode 35 with Dennis Reid

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-35-staff-training-and-supervision-with-dr-dennis-reid-phd-bcba-d/

Episodes 43 and 44 with Dr. Joe Lucyshyn

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-42-family-centred-positive-behaviour-support-with-dr-joseph-lucyshyn-phd-bcba-d-part-1/

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-44-family-centred-positive-behaviour-support-with-dr-joseph-lucyshyn-phd-bcba-d-part-2/

Episode 89 with Bukky Akinwale

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-89-tales-by-moonlight-storytelling-for-youths-and-elders-in-a-historically-black-community-with-bukky-akinwale/

Episode 133 with Traci and Joe Cihon

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-133-meet-the-cihons-siblings-in-science-with-drs-traci-and-joe-cihon/

Episode 168 with Trina Spencer

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-168-tending-the-garden-an-intimate-conversation-with-dr-trina-spencer/

In episode 185 I chat with Raven Lacerte, co-founder and national ambassador for the Moose Hide Campaign, a grassroots initiative aimed at raising awareness and preventing violence against women and children. She delves into the tragic realities of the Highway of Tears, a stretch of highway notorious for the disappearance of Indigenous women, and explores the historical context of violence against Indigenous women stemming from colonization Raven emphasizes the importance of community involvement, cultural practices, and the need for ongoing healing and awareness. Raven also reflects on the challenges of sustaining this work and the necessity of self-care in the face of trauma

Contact:

The Moose Hide Campaign

https://moosehidecampaign.ca/

https://www.instagram.com/moose_hide_campaign/

Raven Lacerte

https://www.linkedin.com/in/raven-lacerte-41bba6188/

Links:

BC Association of Aboriginal Friendship Centres

https://bcaafc.com/

Elaine Alec

https://www.elainealec.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/elainealec/

Cultivating Safe Spaces

https://www.cultivatingsafespaces.com/

Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced

Episode 151: Missing and Murdered Indigenous Relatives With Dr. Amanda Young

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-151-missing-and-murdered-indigenous-relatives-with-dr-amanda-young/

Episode 162: Decolonizing The Mind with Michael Yellow Bird 

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-162-the-decolonization-equation-with-dr-michael-yellow-bird/

This conversation explores the development and impact of Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA) in Ukraine, particularly in the context of the ongoing war. Alla Moskalets has been there from the beginning and shares her personal journey into ABA, the establishment of the Ukrainian Association for Behavior Analysis, and the challenges faced by families and professionals in the field. The discussion highlights the importance of collaboration among specialists, the need for trauma-informed care, and the future aspirations for ABA education and practice in Ukraine

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Contact

Alla Moskalets on LinkedIn

https://www.linkedin.com/in/alla-moskalets-86a7b885/

ABAknovennoe Chudo

https://www.aba.dn.ua/

Masaryk University

https://www.muni.cz/en/people/248113-alla-moskalets/publications

Links:

Interview with Karola Dillenburger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jk3FepOzlE

Articles Discussed:

Kingsdorf, S., Pančocha, K., Moskalets, A., & Ivanova, K. (2024). Evaluating an Applied Behavior Analysis Training Package for Ukrainian Refugee Caregivers of Autistic Children in the Czech Republic. Child & Family Behavior Therapy, 1-28.

Keenan, M., Dillenburger, K., Konrad, M. H., Debetencourt, N., Vuksan, R., Kourea, L., ... & Gallagher, S. (2023). Professional development of behavior analysts in Europe: A snapshot for 21 countries. Behavior Analysis in Practice, 16(3), 709-729.

Related Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes 

Episode 31: Coordinating Supports for Refugee Families of Children with Disabilities with Sophie Ganevitch

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-31specialseries-onsupporting-refugeesfromukraine-episode-1coordinating-supports-forrefugee-families-ofchildrenwithdisabilities-with-sophie/

Episode 32: Tips on Providing Direct Support to Ukrainian Refugee Families With Autistic Children with Bohfanna Popowycz

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-32specialseries-onsupporting-refugeesfromukraine-episode-2tipson-providing-directsupport-toukrainianrefugee-families-with-autistic-children/

Episode 78 The Lived Experiences of Syrian Refugee Parents of Autistic Children With Abdullah Bernier

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-78-the-lived-experiences-of-syrian-refugee-parents-of-autistic-children-with-abdullah-bernier/

Episode 139 Threads of Hope Addressing Trauma Amid War and Civil Discord with Sawsan Razzouk

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-139threads-of-hope-addressing-trauma-amid-war-and-civil-discord-with-sawsan-razzouk-ma-bcba/

In this conversation, Charda'e shares her journey from growing up in Chicago to becoming a behavior analyst in a general education setting. She discusses the challenges of cultural identity, code-switching, and the impact of her experiences on her professional life. The conversation delves into the unique role of behavior analysts in general education, the importance of functional analysis, and the need for a more integrated approach to behavior management in schools

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Contact:

Charda'e Pearson's LinkedIN Profile:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/chardae-pearson-11835a143/

Links:

Charda'e's presentation at Women in Behavior Analysis 2023

https://behaviorlive.com/courses/equitable-and-diverse-leadership-a-systematic-approach-that-builds-leaders-of-al

Related Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes

Episode 49 with Dr. Nicole Hollins

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-49-free-appropriate-public-education-for-all-students-the-role-of-behavior-analysts-in-public-schools-with-dr-nicole-hollins/

Episode 62 with May Beaubrun

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-62-addressing-racial-bias-in-education-with-may-beaubrun-med-bcba-lba/

Episode 75 with Dr. Celeste Malone

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-75-cultivating-black-excellence-and-intelligence-in-school-psychology-with-dr-celeste-malone/

Episode 114 with Dr. Nikole Hollins-Sims

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-114-equity-belonging-and-inclusion-with-drnikole-hollins-sims/

Episode 138 with Dr. Aaron Rachelle Campbell

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-138-culturally-responsive-positive-behavioral-intervention-and-supports-for-black-students/

This episode explores the intersections of Indigenous knowledge, colonialism, and mental health, emphasizing the need to continuously unpack modernity's implications on identity and relationships. Dr. Emma Elliott discusses the importance of strengthening community ties, the urgency of climate action, and the role of Indigenous practices in fostering resilience and well-being. They highlight the potential of Indigenous knowledge systems to provide sustainable pathways for the future and the significance of subsistence practices in preventing mental health issues among youth

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Contact

Dr. Emma Elliott

Email: [email protected]

Faculty Website: https://education.uw.edu/about/directory/emma-elliott

Links:

Robin Zape-Tah-Hol-Ah Episode 

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-181-indigenizing-higher-education-with-dr-robin-zape-tah-hol-ah-minthorn/

Heather Sauyaq Jean Gordon

https://www.linkedin.com/in/hjgordon/

Email: [email protected]

Michael Yellow Bird Episode

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-162-the-decolonization-equation-with-dr-michael-yellow-bird/

Robin Wall Kimmerer Braiding Sweetgrass

https://milkweed.org/book/braiding-sweetgrass

Grant Bruno Episode

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-37-the-realities-of-autism-in-first-nations-communities-in-canada-with-grant-bruno-phd-candidate/

Gift of Being Different

https://aidecanada.ca/resources/learn/asd-id-core-knowledge/the-gift-of-being-different

Articles Discussed:

Elliott, E., & Fish, J. (2024). Overcoming human exceptionalism: The role of ethical nature-culture relations in the developmental contexts of Indigenous children. Child Development, 00, 1–12. https://doi.org/10.1111/cdev.14195

Elliott-Groves E. (2019). A Culturally-Grounded Biopsychosocial Assessment Utilizing Indigenous Ways of Knowing with the Cowichan Tribes. Journal of ethnic & cultural diversity in social work, 28(1), 115–133. https://doi.org/10.1080/15313204.2019.1570889

Ullrich, J. S., Demientieff, L. X., & Elliott, E. (2022). Storying and re-storying: Co-creating Indigenous well-being through Relational Knowledge Exchange. American Review of Canadian Studies, 52(3), 247–259. https://doi.org/10.1080/02722011.2022.2095498

In Episode 181,  Ben speaks with Dr. Robin Zape-tah-hol-ah Minthorn. Dr. Minthorn is an enrolled citizen of the Kiowa tribe of Oklahoma. She is a full professor at the University of Oklahoma in the Educational Leadership and Policy Studies Department and, in 2025 will be the first Indigenous President-Elect of the Association For The Study of Higher Education. 

In this conversation, Dr. Minthorn discusses her journey as an Indigenous scholar and educator, focusing on the impact of historical trauma on education, the transformation of boarding schools into healing spaces, and the importance of Indigenous leadership in higher education. She emphasizes the need for indigenizing educational practices, creating inclusive spaces for Indigenous students, and the role of tribal colleges in providing access to higher education. Dr. Minthorn also reflects on her return to Oklahoma and the challenges faced by Indigenous communities in the current political climate, advocating for resilience and community support.

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Contact

Dr. Robin Zape-ah-toh-lah Minthorn

Email: [email protected]

Faculty Website: https://www.ou.edu/education/people/faculty/robin-minthorn

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robin-zape-tah-hol-ah-minthorn-68515828/

Links:

The Association For The Study of Higher Education

https://www.ashe.ws/

Articles Discussed:

Bill, D.; Minthorn, R.Z.-t.-h.-a.; Montgomery, M. Visioning Indigenous Futures: Centering Sovereignty and Relationality in Belonging. Educ. Sci. 2022, 12, 678. https://doi.org/10.3390/educsci12100678

Davidson, C., Shotton, H., Minthorn, R. & Waterman, S. (2018). Chapter 1. The Need for Indigenizing Research in Higher Education Scholarship. In R. Minthorn, H. Shotton & R. Minthorn (Ed.), Reclaiming Indigenous Research in Higher Education (pp. 7-17). Ithaca, NY: Rutgers University Press. https://doi.org/10.36019/9780813588728-003

Minthorn, R., & Chavez, A. F. (2014). Indigenous leadership in higher education. In Indigenous leadership in higher education (pp. 19-23). Routledge.

Minthorn, R., & Craig, A. (2023). Embodying an Indigenous-Centered Approach to Mentorship in Doctoral Programs. In Best Practices and Programmatic Approaches for Mentoring Educational Leaders (pp. 1-15). IGI Global.

Minthorn, R. Z. (2018). Indigenous Motherhood in the Academy, Building Our Children to Be Good Relatives. Wicazo Sa Review, 33(2), 62–75. https://doi.org/10.5749/wicazosareview.33.2.0062

Shotton, H. J., Tachine, A. R., Nelson, C. A., Minthorn, R. Z., & Waterman, S. J. (2018). Living Our Research Through Indigenous Scholar Sisterhood Practices. Qualitative Inquiry, 24(9), 636-645. https://doi.org/10.1177/1077800417744578

Youngbull, N. R., Wagnon, J. D., & Minthorn, R. Z. tah hol ah. (2023). Inspiring Empowerment, Leadership, and Advocacy of Indigenous Women Through a Native American Sorority. Journal of Women and Gender in Higher Education, 16(4), 275–294. https://doi.org/10.1080/26379112.2023.2269284

Episode 180 explores the field of Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA) through the experiences of three Registered Behavior Technicians (RBTs) and their clinical director. They discuss their journeys into ABA, the challenges faced in accessing services, and the importance of RBTs in the field. The conversation culminates in the introduction of the ABA Roundtable, a conference designed to center RBTs and provide them with a platform to share their knowledge and experiences.

Links:

The ABA Roundtable Conference

https://behaviorlive.com/conferences/RoundTable

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61559643337225

https://www.instagram.com/abaroundtable/

Sankofa Behavioral Health (formerly Signature Behavioral Health) 

https://www.sankofabehavioralhealth.com/

Contact:

Niesha Bertrand

[email protected]

Denisha Gingles

[email protected]

https://www.linkedin.com/in/denishaginglesbcba/

Courtney Hall

[email protected]

https://www.linkedin.com/in/courtney-hall-2335a5a6/

Jade LaZard

[email protected]

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jade-l-97019192/

In episode 175, Ben welcomes back Dr. Marija Čolić. Marija is an assistant professor of special education at the University of Hawaii at Manoa where she studies stigma in autistic people, those with developmental disabilities, and their caregivers as well as the parental experiences of autistic children.  They discuss her research in Serbia for which she won the 2021 Diversity in Research Award from the International Society for Autism Research 

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Contact

Marija Čolić

https://coe.hawaii.edu/sped/profiles/marija-colic/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/marija-%C4%8Doli%C4%87-a705b827/

Past Episodes Referenced

Rocío Rosales

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-30-a-conversation-with-dr-rocio-rosales-phd-bcba-d/

Marija Čolić

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-38-what-we-can-do-about-stigma-and-racism-using-behaviour-science-with-dr-marija-colic-phd-bcba-d/

Noor Syed

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-63-equity-and-systems-change-with-dr-noor-syed/

Articles Referenced

Čolić, M. (2023). Autism in Serbia: insights into parental experiences, support networks, and systemic obstacles. International Journal of Developmental Disabilities, 1–10. https://doi.org/10.1080/20473869.2023.2294390

Čolić, M. and Buljevac, M. 2023. Formal and informal support for Croatian and Serbian people with disabilities and their families: A scoping review. Specijalna edukacija i rehabilitacija, 22 (4), 327–349.

Čolić, M. and Milačić-Vidojević, I. 2021. Perceived stigma among Serbian parents of children with autism spectrum disorder and children with physical disabilities: Validation of a new instrument. Journal of Autism and Developmental Disorders, 51 (2), 501–513.

In this conversation, Ben Reiman hosts Hillary and Oswin to discuss their experiences and insights into neurodiversity, the evolution of Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA), and the importance of intersectionality in advocacy. Hillary and Oswin discuss their collaboration on a new project with Foundations for Divergent Minds and the significance of a public health approach to neurodiversity. The discussion delves into the historical context of the anti-ABA movement, personal experiences with ABA, and the current trends and challenges within the ABA community. The conversation emphasizes the need for competence, mentorship, and the creation of supportive communities for neurodivergent individuals.

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Contact:

Oswin Latimer

https://oglatimer.com/

Hilary McClinton

https://coastalridgeconsulting.ca/

Foundations for Divergent Minds

https://education.divergentminds.org/

Links:

Oswin on Rants With Justin and Joe (Now It Has To Be Said with Justin and Jow

https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/some-perspectives-of-aba-as-it-relates-to-asd/id1530613239?i=1000504435358

Oswin and Hilary on SLP NerdCast

https://courses.slpnerdcast.com/courses/recorded-webinar-elevating-autistic-voices-recognizing-your-power-and-privilege-abje7008

The Do Better Movement

https://collective.dobettermovement.us/

The Thinking Person's  Guide to Autism

https://thinkingautismguide.com/

Behaviour Speak Podcast Episode with Terra Vance

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-54/