John and Arvin are back! This season, we're diving into even more conversations around serving full-time behind the scenes at Victory Church in Tulsa, Oklahoma. In this episode, John and Arvin discuss the best perspective one can have while serving under another leader.

Rather than coasting and delivering the bare minimum, God uses seasons where we're not in charge to develop the mental, emotional and spiritual muscles necessary to steward the next phase of His plan for us.