Glenn plays the first part of his interview with President Donald Trump, in which they discuss Elon Musk and the potential Cabinet position he would have in a Trump administration. In part two, Glenn and President Trump discuss the current immigration crisis and Kamala’s takeover of Biden’s campaign. Claremont Review of Books associate editor Spencer Klavan joins to discuss his new book, "Light of the Mind, Light of the World," which explains that science is leading us toward an intelligent creator, not away.

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