Less than a week after the Cardinals swept through Cincinnati and won all four games of a series in the Queen City for the first time since, oh, the same week warning tracks were standardized around baseball, the Reds come to St. Louis. They've brought a new manager. They're stuck on the same rebuild. To understand what direction the Reds are going -- if they have a course heading at all -- The Athletic-Cincinnati's C. Trent Rosecrans joins the Best Podcast in Baseball, brought to you by Lumberlend, Co. St. Louis Post-Dispatch baseball Derrick Goold and Rosecrans discuss just how long it will take for the Reds to be relevant, rather the Cardinals are as good as the Reds make them look, and if Joey Votto's best years are being wasted on a team that is deep into a tank. Also, two vintage packs of baseball cards are opened and Rosecrans scores a Cardinals fan favorite and then name-drops. A lot. There is one David S. Pumpkins reference. It has to do with Lenny Dykstra. Promise.