Between The Sheets

Later than we intended thanks to the flu, here’s what was supposed to be stopgap content over the holidays. Make sure to check out the latest Patreon shows, and be on the lookout for the return of the weekly show this Monday. Now, for the original show descriptions:

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Part 1:

It’s Thanksgiving, and you know what that means: A new Patreon deep dive, this time looking at the first ridiculous startup promotion of the post-WCW era, John Collins’ Main Event Championship Wrestling. And since he was right in the thick of things, we’re joined by our dear from Beau James (@kingofkingsport) throughout this first part (of two, with another episode coming in December). Topics include the initial buzz that Beau heard before the news of the startup broke publicly, Collins paying his guys to appear at shows promoted by Beau and others that he was making zero dollars from, various ridiculous interviews that Collins gave on radio shows, Bill Behrens, Mike Samples, and others publicly warning everyone about Collins’ sketchiness, the MECW “TV taping” at the ECW Arena being made a free show at the last minute, Collins doing a TV pilot taping there in the first place after already having shot a separate pilot, Terry Taylor publicly flirting with a job in MECW, all of the drama with Buff Bagwell refusing to do a job for then-NWA World Heavyweight Champion Steve Corino, and much more.

Like we keep saying: John Collins is like putting Paul Heyman/ECW, Herb Abrams/the UWF, and Olu Olalyemi/Joe Pedicino/the GWF in a blender. You do NOT want to miss this show. Happy Thanksgiving!

Part 2:

It’s that time of the month, and you know what that means: The second anf final part of our deep dive into the utter disaster that was Main Event Championship Wrestling, John Collins' post-WCW/ECW startup. Topics include everything going to hell after the big "TV taping" at the former ECW Arena, flights to Evansville being cancelled and Collins blaming Paul Heyman when he just hadn't paid for them, an amazing (and lengthy!) lesson in promoting towns from Beau, Collins self-destructing on a conference call with Tod Gordon, Bob Ryder, and Dave Scherer, wrestlers showing up at Collins' home to demand their money, the simultaneous rise of fellow nebulous startups Super Fed and WrestleXpress, Collins harassing Crimson Mask from the Wrestling Classics Message Board on AOL Instant Messenger, Collins "having a heart attack" more than once, MECW's backer being under court order not to spend money since before MECW was even announced, Collins working as a heel manager on shows syndicated by Bill Behrens while Bill's own promotion has a heel doing a Collins parody gimmick, Terry Taylor's "Torch Talk" interview, Collins' SECOND promotion, the Torch's year-end quiz, Collins going to federal prison thanks to MECW, and MUCH more. This is an amazing show and we hope you enjoy it!

Timestamps:

0:00:00 Prologue & July 2001

1:55:15 Early August 2001

3:14:08 Late August 2001 (and Beau's lesson in local promotion)

5:11:35 September 2001

6:19:55 October 2001 and beyond

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For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.

To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.

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Kris Zellner is joined by Rob Naylor and Our Good Buddy Charles as we discuss the month of December 1990 in the world of the newly-renamed World Championship Wrestling and pop culture in general. Topics of discussion include:

• Ole Anderson's last TV as booker of the NWA/WCW scoring surprisingly very good Nielsen ratings.
• Ty Detmer winning the Heisman Trophy.
• The TV shows all dropping the NWA name and becoming WCW-branded shows.
• Konnan, The Minotaur, and Larry Cameron make their debuts working TV tapings.
• The power of The Simpsons as Christmas rolls around.
• Ric Flair being attacked by Teddy Long's hired goons when Long served as Flair’s “chauffeur for a day.”
• The best WCW Family Feud segment.
• An in-depth look at Starrcade ’90, featuring the Pat O'Connor Memorial Tag Team Tournament and Ric Flair being revealed as The Black Scorpion.
• Kindergarten Cop and how that changed the game for Arnold Schwarzenegger.
• Will Dusty Rhodes actually become WCW’s head booker?
• The WCW TV Title consuming the lives of Arn Anderson, Bobby Eaton, Terry Taylor, and Tom Zenk.
• Jim Cornette's legendary Christmas poem in the Observer.

…and much more. This was a great show and a great close to a wild 1990!

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To support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!

If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.

For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.

To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.

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Kris and David are back to discuss the week-plus that was December 17-24, 2000. Topics of discussion include:

• Raw and Smackdown featuring a TON of Vince McMahon soap opera with neither show having much wrestling of note, all while ratings are declining.
• The Rock and The Undertaker becoming WWF Tag Team hampions for a one day title change that nobody remembers.
• Road Dogg being extremely thin ice due to his personal issues.
• New Japan and all of their political issues with both Shinya Hashimoto and Motoko Baba.
• NOAH having its best match to date in the form of Jun Akiyama vs. Kenta Kobashi at Ariake Colosseum.
• Just how “Bangable” was Survival Tobita?
• The greatness of Toryumon.
• Kazushi Sakuraba vs. Ryan Gracie headlining a newsworthy PRIDE card.
• Akira Maeda attacking a female RINGS employee.
• The final ECW Arena show for ECW.
• Dave Meltzer talking about the future of “The Prototype” John Cena in UPW.
• A completely insane WCW section featuring the final Starrcade, DDP and Scott Steiner getting into a backstage fight, Kevin Nash being political as hell, and some wacky clips.

This was a tremendous show, so we hope you enjoy it. HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!!

Timestamps:

0:00:00 WWF

1:02:44 Int’l: NJPW, NOAH, BattlARTS, Survival Tobita, Toryumon, PRIDE, Tokyo Sports Awards, AJW, Arsion, GAEA, NEO Ladies,CMLL, IWRG, Neza, Tijuana,& Puerto Rico

2:15:57 Classic Commercial Break

2:21:51 Halftime with Mark Wolf tribute

3:00:28 Other USA: ECW, NWA Wildside, NWA Worldwide, Memphis Power Pro, UPW, & UrbanWA

3:37:09 WCW

To support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!

If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.

For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.

To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.

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Kris and David are joined by Beau James (@KingofKingsport) and Robert O'Connor (@ghostofquinones) to discuss the week-plus that was December 10-17, 1993, our annual holiday spectacular dropping just in time for Chanukkah!!!! Topics of discussion include:

• Ted Turner giving a state of WCW speech to the company staff for the first time ever.
• WCW officially firing Sid Vicious and Davey Boy Smith and how that affected creative plans.
• Terry Funk and potential assistant Eddie Gilbert being rumored to be coming in to replace Dusty Rhodes as WCW’s head booker(s).
• Paul Roma turning heel on Erik Watts to join Paul Orndorff and The Assassin.
• Big year-end shows from NJPW and WAR.
• Akira Hokuto announcing her retirement.
• The tragic death of Larry Cameron after suffering a mid-match heart attack in Germany.
• Terry Funk introducing his “Few Good Men” in ECW.
• What exactly down at the infamous SMW show in Wise, Virginia via as the Torch’s very detailed, well-reported cover story.
• Eddie Gilbert returning to the USWA on a show where Jerry Lawler and Brian Christopher also introduce the fans to “Bertha,” a.k.a. Bert Prentice in Dolly Parton-themed drag to counteract Toni Adams at ringside.
• How new TV censorship guidelines could affect the WWF and pro wrestling in general.
• Vince McMahon sitting down with Owen Hart on TV to talk about his issues with his brother, Bret.
• Hulk Hogan is the Leader of the Gamg (He Is).

This was a CLASSIC show, and we hope that everyone has a great holiday season!!!

Timestamps:

0:00:00 WCW

1:17:52 Int’l: NJPW, WAR, Michinoku Pro, SPWF, FULL, UWFi, Akira Hokuto, AJW, India, WWS, Larry Cameron, CWA, CMLL, & UWA

2:16:04 Classic Commercial Break

2:20:25 Halftime

2:55:07 Other USA: IWC (Skoler), ECW, PWF (Stallion/South), SMW, USWA, Big D, & GWF

5:45:51 WWF

To support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!

If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.

For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.

To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.

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Kris and David are back to discuss the (almost-)week that was December 4-8, 1998. Topics of discussion include:

• The WWF running their second UK-only PPV. Capital Carnage, featuring crazy promos from the McMahons, special ringside enforcer Vinnie Jones being A Hard Man, and evem some nudity.
• Jim Ross finding out about his mother’s death while in England, stressing him to such a degree that he suffered his second attack of Bell's Palsy during the PPV.
• Steve Austin getting "crucified" (symbolified?) by The Undertaker on a wild episode of Raw.
• AJPW and NJPW finishing off their annual tag league tours.
• The WCW vs. WWF promotional war ventures down to Mexico as WCW talent begin working at Arena Mexico just as WWF Super Astros launches on Univision in the U.S.
• Another WCW talent raid of ECW.
• Roller Jam taping their first shows, which feature quite a bit of pro wrestling influence.
• Nitro does major business at the Astrodome in Houston…and puts on one of the worst episodes of the show in its history.
• Terrible skits and short matches featuring horrendous booking abound on that Nitro, so yes, this is a definite MUST-LISTEN WCW section.

This was a thoroughly entertaining show, so please take a listen!!!!

Timestamps:

0:00:00 WWF

1:56:55 Eurasia: AJPW, NJPW, BJPW, FMW, IWA Kokusai, Michinoku Pro, MUGA, SPWF, Wrestle Yume Factory, Arsion, & CWA

2:24:49 Classic Commercial Break

2:29:31 Halftime

3:05:44 Mexico: AAA & CMLL

3:23:55 Other USA: USA Pro, IWF (NJ), ECW, MarylandCW, MEWF, NWA Mid-Atlantic, OMEGA, Don Fargo, OVW, Music City, Power Pro, Wrestling Superstars 2000, & Roller Jam

4:04:21 WCW

To support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!

If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.

For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.

You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!

To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.

Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

Kris and David are back as we discuss the partial week that was November 27-December 1, 1986 which means THANKSGIVING WEEK!! Topics of discussion include:

• Starrcade ’86 with a full rundown of everything that went down in both Atlanta and Greensboro, featuring Ric Flair vs. Nikita Koloff, the Midnight Express vs. Road Warriors scaffold match, Dusty Rhodes vs. Tully Blanchard in a first blood match, Paul Jones becoming a BALD-HEADED GEEK, and so much more.
• “Bullet” Bob Armstrong making his return to WTBS after 2 years away to help his son Brad against Bill Dundee and Jimmy Garvin.
• Bruiser Brody issuing a grandstand challenge to Antonio Inoki.
• Bob Roop getting fired as the booker in Florida.
• The Fabulous Ones returning to Memphis, which pisses off the Rock ’n’ Roll RPM's.
• Jonathan Boyd showing tbe world his New Zealand Death Box on TV, much to Lance Russell’s consternation.
• Fritz Von Erich battling Abdullah the Butcher at Reunion Arena and why Bruiser Brody was there even though he wasn't booked.
• Saturday Night's Main Event headlined by Randy Savage vs. Jake Roberts. 
• Andre the Giant giving us an update from London after he gets reinstated.
• All of the big Thanksgiving shows from around the country.

This show was pretty damn awesome in our opinion, and we hope that you agree!!!

Timestamps:

0:00:00 Jim Crockett Promotions

1:27:30 Int’l: AJPW, NJPW, Stampede, EMLL, UWA, & WWC

1:43:54 Classic Commercial Break

1:47:46 Halftime

2:44:08 Other USA: NWF, Deep South, CWF, Continental, CWA/Memphis, UWF, WCCW, AWA, & Portland

4:07:57 WWF

To support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!

If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.

For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.

You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!

To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.

Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

Center Stage Chronicles is back as Kris Zellner is joined by Rob Naylor and Our Good Buddy Charles to discuss the month of November 1990 in the National Wrestling Alliance and pop culture in general. Topics of discussion include:

• How pending Turner Broadcasting cutbacks will affect the wrestling division.
• Graffiti Bridge being the true sequel to Purple Rain
• Ric Flair putting up his yacht and Rolls Royce against Doom's tag titles.
• The end of the NWA name being used on TV.
• Just who the hell is the real Magnum Force, anyway?
• Madonna releases Justify My Love and the controversy is about to get big.
• The series finales of Charles In Charge and Pee Wee's Playhouse.
• WCW and NJPW reach a deal to co-promote a Tokyo Dome show.
• A wacky as hell Clash of the Champions featuring some terrible matches and a Black Scorpion magic show.
• The birth of Michael Wallstreet and the York Foundation.
• Milli Vanilli gets exposed and they pay the price, losing their Grammy Award for Best New Artist.
• Ole Anderson gets fired as head booker and Dusty Rhodes rumors start to run rampant as a result..

This show was a total blast, so we hope you will enjoy it!!!

To support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!

If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.

For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.

You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!

To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.

Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

Kris and David are back to discuss the week that was November 19-25, 2004. Topics of discussion include:

• Two years into their ownership of TNA, Panda Energy is facing major losses and may have to sell the company.
• Jerry Jarrett reportedly winning a power battle over his son Jeff and replacing him as the head booker with Dusty Rhodes in a move that also means that Vince Russo's power diminishes in the promotion as well.
• Johnny B. Badd and Randy Savage both showing up on TNA Impact in a wild time in the promotion's history.
• Some wacky Vince Russo interviews as well which have to be heard to be believed.
• The end of the original incarnation of Zero-One, as Shinya Hashimoto closes the doors due to some major financial losses.
• Konnan making his return to AAA and how big of a deal that was..
• Big shows from IWA Puerto Rico featuring some big names.
• Sabu almost dying after a serious virus ravaged his body.
• CM Punk cutting a shoot promo on Rob Feinstein during an IWA Mid-South show while wearing a Perverted Justice shirt, which ended up driving a fresh wedge between Punk and Ian Rotten.
• The story of Jerry Lawler's house almost being robbed by a Memphis cop.
• The early teases of Batista/HHH breaking up on a Raw that also featured the wild Shelton Benjamin/Trish Stratus parody of the controversial Terrell Owens/Nicolette Sheridan skit that served as Monday Night Football’s cold open a week earlier.
• A Big Show Thanksgiving on Smackdown featuring a crazy promo by Luther Reigns and a food fight to boot.

This was an extremely fun show, so check it out!!!

Timestamps:

0:00:00 TNA

1:44:39 Eurasia: AJPW, NJPW, NOAH, Zero-One, Hustle, Apache Army, BJPW, Michinoku Pro, Osaka Pro, PWC, Pro Wrestling Nightmare, Winger Produce, NEO Ladies, & EPW

2:22:19 Classic Commercial Break

2:26:26 Halftime

2:57:42 Other North America: IWS, AAA, CMLL, IWRG, Monterrey, Luchamania, IWAPR, & WWC

3:21:21 Other USA: Sabu, USA Pro, 3PW, Chikara, NWA WildsideTMW, IWAMS, Bart Sawyer, Jerry Lawler, WLW, & OVW

4:00:50 WWE

To support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!

If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.

For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.

You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!

To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.

Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

Kris and David are back to discuss the week-plus that was November 9-17, 1991. Topics of discussion include:

• WWF tests for steroids for the first time at a TV taping right before a big pieces about the steroid scandal were set to air on Entertainment Tonight and two Inside Edition.
• The end of Ric Flair using the “Big Gold Belt” on WWF TV.
• Hulk Hogan getting attacked by The Undertaker in the Funeral Parlor as the top feud is shifted from Hogan-Flair to Hogan-Undertaker.
• The stacked list of teams in AJPW’s Real World Tag League.
• Ultimo Dragon and American Love Machine make their CMLL debuts in the same weekend.
• National Geographic Explorer spotlights Lucha Libre on TBS, especially Fray Tormenta and Super Barrio.
• Jeff Jarrett teases a heel turn, The Grave Digger and Spirit of America debut, and lots more wackiness on USWA TV.
• The Saga of "The Boss" takes a sharp turn in the Global Wrestling Federation thanks to surprising real life pressures.
• How Magic Johnson’s announcement that he was HIV+ affected wrestling in the immediate aftermath.
• WCW's Bruise Cruise attracting lots of female fans.

…and much more. We’ve got a strong show this week, folks, and the halftime segment is one for the books, too, as we go over the 2025 Observer Hall of Fame inductees and lots more!

Timestamps:

0:00:00 WWF

2:19:47 Eurasia: AJPW, NJPW, SWS, FMW, Universal Lucha Libre, W*ING, Catch Fans Int’l, &CWA

2:42:25 Classic Commercial Break

2:47:53 Halftime: WON HOF Results & More Edition

4:18:08 Latin America: EMLL, Monterrey, Arena Naucalpan, National Geographic Explorer, UWA, & WWC

4:52:39 Other USA: IWCCW, UWF (Abrams), John Arezzi, WWA (NJ), TWA, VWA, SAPW, ICWA, USWA, GWF, Portland, & Torch Annual

6:36:42 WCW

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Kris and David are back as we discuss the week that was November 3-9, 1985. Topics of discussion include:

• The wacky Paul Jones/Superstar Billy Graham breakup
• The official debut of Miss Atlanta Lively.
• Larry Zbyszko interviewing new AWA World Tag Team Champions Jimmy Garvin and Steve Regal on his In This Corner segment.
• The first ever Riki Choshu vs. Jumbo Tsuruta singles match takes place…but it’s technically on a Japan Pro show, not an AJPW show.
• Some great clips from very early in the Stampede Wrestling revival, featuring the original Dan Kroffat manipulating the heels and Bruce Hart being suspended pended by evil referee Ron Hayter
• Just who is The Bullet?
• Bill Dundee forcibly cuts Jerry Jarrett's hair on Memphis TV.
• Ric Flair shows up in Mid-South and has a big confrontation with Butch Reed on TV.
• Percy Pringle joins Rick Rude in World Class and changes his character from his Florida days to avoid comparisons to Gary Hart.
• Early Shawn MIchaels in Texas All-Star Wrestling as one half of American Force with the very not American Paul Diamond.
• Don Owen fires a WWF spy that was in his locker room.
• Wrestlevision Presents: The Wrestling Classic, the first-ever WWF show to be specifically produced for pay-per-view and not closed-circuit television.
• Hulk Hogan and Randy Savage begin their feud on TV with an angle that features the definitive “heel Elizabeth” moment. 
• Bruno Sammartino goes into Piper's Pit at the Boston Garden
• The British Bulldogs hire a new manager. No, not Matilda. That’s later.

This is just the tip of the iceberg on this great show, so you don't want to miss it!!

Timestamps:

0:00:00 JCP, PWUSA, & AWA

1:18:52 Int’l: AJPW/Japan Pro, NJPW, All-Star (UK), Dale Martin, Stampede, All-Star (BC), EMLL, & UWA

1:48:55 USA East: Ann Gunkel, Florida, Continental, & CWA/Memphis

3:17:39 Classic Commercial Break

3:23:34 Halftime

4:17:08 USA West: Mid-South, Houston, WCCW, TASW, Central States, & Portland

5:19:25 WWF

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