This is my classic talk with Beverly D'Angelo.

Bev and I were texting last week and decided it's time to record a new talk, especially since she's been up to a lot since we first recorded this talk in 2019. But we're having some trouble coordinating our schedules, so I'm running this one now because it's a fun one with juicy stories and it's entirely possible we won't get that new one on the books anytime soon. And since Bev's ex, Al Pacino, who's also the father of her twins, has a new memoir out, called Sonny Boy, I thought, yeah, let's also hear from Bev, who has quite a few stories of her own.

National Lampoon's Vacation turned actress Beverly D'Angelo into an American icon. She played Ellen Griswold, Chevy Chase's wife, of course. But that's just part of the story.

I sit down with Bev at her Los Angeles home to talk about all the other things in her life.

(And let's not forget Annie Hall, Any Which Way But Loose, Coal Miner's Daughter, Entourage, Shooter, Insatiable, etc., but more on that later.)

Yes, we talk about how Vacation happened and how it changed things, and we get into SO MUCH MORE, like:

• Podcasts (hers + mine + other people's)
• Bev's background
• Bev's family
• Growing up in Columbus, Ohio
• Conformity
• Authenticity
• Sex, drugs and rock 'n roll
• Getting pregnant at age 48
• Meeting, falling in love, and having kids with Al Pacino
• Al Pacino's mystique and how his fame has grown
• Addictive behavior
• Why she did Vacation after at first saying 'No.'
• Chevy Chase
• Why I should talk to Chevy now (and PS I really, really want to)
• Getting shunned by Hollywood
• Insecurity in Hollywood
• Other love stories

BONUS VIDEO!

• Beverly D'Angelo + I laugh and get real - on film!
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