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  • Compilation 5: 2025 Midwest Clinic Series

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    This Beyond ArtLess episode was captured during our live recording sessions at the 2025 Midwest Clinic. We’re especially grateful to everyone who willingly stopped by to participate in an interview—and to those who accidentally wandered down the wrong aisle and found themselves part of the action, our sincere apologies!

    REGISTER NOW:

    BUILDING BETTER BANDS DAY (MAY 23):

    https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/education


    RISING MUSIC EDUCATOR PROGRAM (MAY 22):

    https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/education


    FREE MUSIC: 

    Wisconsin Arts Celebration Project (Marie Douglas “Yellow Birds”)

    https://dpi.wi.gov/fine-arts/wisconsin-arts-celebration-project-0


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    Our sponsor Silent Stage Podiums. https://www.arcofrog.com/silentstagepodiums

    We would love to partner with you too! Just head to our website to learn more! 

    https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/education/podcast#sponsor

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    1 hr 22 min
  • Compilation 4: 2025 Midwest Clinic Series

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    This Beyond ArtLess episode was captured during our live recording sessions at the 2025 Midwest Clinic. We’re especially grateful to everyone who willingly stopped by to participate in an interview—and to those who accidentally wandered down the wrong aisle and found themselves part of the action, our sincere apologies!

    REGISTER NOW:

    BUILDING BETTER BANDS DAY (MAY 23):

    https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/education


    RISING MUSIC EDUCATOR PROGRAM (MAY 22):

    https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/education


    FREE MUSIC: 

    Wisconsin Arts Celebration Project (Marie Douglas “Yellow Birds”)

    https://dpi.wi.gov/fine-arts/wisconsin-arts-celebration-project-0


    THANKS TO:

    Our sponsor Silent Stage Podiums. https://www.arcofrog.com/silentstagepodiums

    We would love to partner with you too! Just head to our website to learn more! 

    https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/education/podcast#sponsor

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    1 hr 21 min
  • Compilation 3: 2025 Midwest Clinic Series

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    This Beyond ArtLess episode was captured during our live recording sessions at the 2025 Midwest Clinic. We’re especially grateful to everyone who willingly stopped by to participate in an interview—and to those who accidentally wandered down the wrong aisle and found themselves part of the action, our sincere apologies!

    REGISTER NOW:

    BUILDING BETTER BANDS DAY (MAY 23):

    https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/education


    RISING MUSIC EDUCATOR PROGRAM (MAY 22):

    https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/education


    FREE MUSIC: 

    Wisconsin Arts Celebration Project (Marie Douglas “Yellow Birds”)

    https://dpi.wi.gov/fine-arts/wisconsin-arts-celebration-project-0


    THANKS TO:

    Our sponsor Silent Stage Podiums. https://www.arcofrog.com/silentstagepodiums

    We would love to partner with you too! Just head to our website to learn more! 

    https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/education/podcast#sponsor

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    1 hr 12 min
  • Compilation 2: 2025 Midwest Clinic Series

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    This Beyond ArtLess episode was captured during our live recording sessions at the 2025 Midwest Clinic. We’re especially grateful to everyone who willingly stopped by to participate in an interview—and to those who accidentally wandered down the wrong aisle and found themselves part of the action, our sincere apologies!

    REGISTER NOW:

    BUILDING BETTER BANDS DAY (MAY 23):

    https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/education


    RISING MUSIC EDUCATOR PROGRAM (MAY 22):

    https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/education


    FREE MUSIC: 

    Wisconsin Arts Celebration Project (Marie Douglas “Yellow Birds”)

    https://dpi.wi.gov/fine-arts/wisconsin-arts-celebration-project-0


    THANKS TO:

    Our sponsor Silent Stage Podiums. https://www.arcofrog.com/silentstagepodiums

    We would love to partner with you too! Just head to our website to learn more! 

    https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/education/podcast#sponsor

    Support the show

    1 hr 7 min
  • Compilation 1: 2025 Midwest Clinic Series

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    This Beyond ArtLess episode was captured during our live recording sessions at the 2025 Midwest Clinic. We’re especially grateful to everyone who willingly stopped by to participate in an interview—and to those who accidentally wandered down the wrong aisle and found themselves part of the action, our sincere apologies!


    FREE MUSIC: 

    Wisconsin Arts Celebration Project (Marie Douglas “Yellow Birds”)

    https://dpi.wi.gov/fine-arts/wisconsin-arts-celebration-project-0


    Beyond The Notes Music Festival (Erika Svanoe “Fanfare on Joy To The World”)

    https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/. (UNTIL JAN 1 ONLY


    THANKS TO:

    Our sponsor Silent Stage Podiums. https://www.arcofrog.com/silentstagepodiums

    We would love to partner with you too! Just head to our website to learn more! 

    https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/education/podcast#sponsor

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    52 min
  • Heidi & Dan Joosten

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    A first for the podcast – a brother and sister tandem.  Heidi and Dan (and their musician sister Sara) were destined for music from an early age – even though enrolling in college in unrelated fields.  Their parents, Beth and Mike Joosten have been music education fixtures in Wisconsin – now taking that approach to their woodworking business.  Heidi has been conducting multiple national tours of sound and screen shows, and also continues to compose, play piano and harp.  Dan is band director at Edgerton High School and also the Edgerton and Verona Community Bands.  Peter, Phil and Chris do their best to form complete sentences.  Be sure to hang in there until the end as we have a LIVE appearance from the Band Buzzler Creator and Architect – Paul Kile – dashing in before heading to Midwest with the Edina High School Band and Tim Mahr.

    Credits:

    "Boomba" For Wind Ensemble. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm5V1-JZH4Y

    Composed By Michael Barry, Conducted by Anthony Panther , Recorded by Adam Michalak , With the Hollywood Scoring Wind Ensemble 

    Score and Parts Available for Purchase:

    https://murphymusicpress.com/products...,  https://michaelbarrycomposer.com/store/


    Respighi - Huntingtower (Ballad for Band) United States Air Force Band / Lt. Col. Lowell E Graham. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRxWbW0RheU


    Carmina Burana - Were du werlt alle min Richard Cooke, Carl Orff, Carmina Burana.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rBaCp3t5v4


    FREE MUSIC: 

    Wisconsin Arts Celebration Project (Marie Douglas “Yellow Birds”)

    https://dpi.wi.gov/fine-arts/wisconsin-arts-celebration-project-0


    Beyond The Notes Music Festival (Erika Svanoe “Fanfare on Joy To The World”)

    https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/


    THANKS TO:

    Our sponsor Silent Stage Podiums. https://www.arcofrog.com/silentstagepodiums

    We would love to partner with you too! Just head to our website to learn more! 

    https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/education/podcast#sponsor


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    58 min
  • Jodie Blackshaw

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    Beyond Artless: Featuring Composer Jodie Blackshaw

    In this episode of Beyond Artless, we are honored to welcome Jodie Blackshaw, internationally performed composer, educator, and creative voice whose music speaks with honesty, courage, and deep emotional resonance.

    Jodie shares her journey into composition and the stories behind writing music that asks conductors and performers to truly create. From embracing vulnerability in the creative process to navigating the responsibilities of writing meaningful, inclusive repertoire, she reflects on what it means to compose with purpose in today’s musical world.

    What you’ll hear in this episode:

    • Jodie’s path to becoming a composer and educator
    • How storytelling, emotion, and lived experience shape her music
    • The balance between craft and courage in the compositional and performance process
    • Writing with empathy, intention, and social awareness
    • Advice for young composers and performers finding their artistic voice

    This conversation is a powerful reminder that music is more than sound on a page—it is connection, reflection, and invitation. Jodie’s insight challenges us to listen more deeply, create more bravely, and engage more fully with the stories we tell through music.

     Tune in for a conversation that is thoughtful, inspiring, and deeply human—beyond artless.


    Credits:

    Percy Grainger's Colonial Song

    Percy Grainger (1882–1961) Colonial Song, edited by Timothy Topolowski and Larry Clark

    "The President's Own" United States Marine Band

    Recorded on Sunday, Feb. 2, 2025, at the Rachel M. Schlesinger Concert Hall and Arts Center in Alexandria, Va.

    Capt. Darren Y. Lin, conducting

    https://youtu.be/9LgwGfK-K7s?si=upWWiN6wt40pJoTl


    Whirlwind 

    Provided to YouTube by NAXOS of America

    Whirlwind (Australia, Winner 1st Prize - Category 1) · University of North Texas Symphonic Band

    The Winners & the Finalists: The 1st Frank Ticheli Composition Contest

    ℗ 2012 Mark Records

    Released on: 2012-08-07

    Conductor: Dennis Fisher

    Ensemble: University of North Texas Symphonic Band

    Composer: Jodie Blackshaw

    https://youtu.be/RpXRdvNjZ_8?si=wNiS3FR_s9jEQG33


    FREE MUSIC: 

    Wisconsin Arts Celebration Project (Marie Douglas “Yellow Birds”)

    https://dpi.wi.gov/fine-arts/wisconsin-arts-celebration-project-0


    Beyond The Notes Music Festival (Erika Svanoe “Fanfare on Joy To The World”)

    https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/



    Midwest Step Up Contest
    Big thanks to our sponsor, Silent Stage Podiums! If you're heading to the Midwest Clinic, swing by Booth #748 before Friday at noon and snap a creative pic on the Silent Stage podium. Follow + tag Beyond The Notes (FB) to enter.  Winners announced on the BTN FB page at NOON on Friday, Dec. 19, 2025.

    Prizes:
     • Best “Style” Photo: $20 Starbucks gift card + ArtLess shirt
     • Random Winner: 30 seconds of airtime on the Beyond Artless Podcast (PSA, story, advice, joke… or roast Peter)

    See you at Midwest!


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    1 hr 9 min
  • Tony Baker

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    Once again, this podcast manages to leave our guest feeling both uncomfortable and slightly disoriented. Today’s show features the incredible trombonist, educator, and all-around human gem Tony Baker, Professor of Trombone at the University of North Texas. Tony came prepared to talk about his education, experiences, and mentors—what he didn’t expect was a surprise visit from the 1996 Valleyfair Beach Band (of which he was a proud member). Add in a Band Buzzler, a Band Boozler, and the Coach, and you’ve got one unforgettable episode guaranteed to leave you just as uncomfortable and slightly disoriented.

    Learn More About Tony:

    https://music.unt.edu/people/tony-baker.html

    https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5fab22e730a5be1f90f837cd/t/604f878f301a5c6460259a5d/1615824812196/Tony+Baker+-+An+Artist%27s+Corner.pdf

    Credits:

    The Planets by Trouvère: The Earth

    Conductor: Larry H. Lang

    Orchestra: United States Air Force Band

    Composer: Jun Nagao

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEwLM6P7wIA


    FREE MUSIC: 

    Wisconsin Arts Celebration Project (Marie Douglas “Yellow Birds”)

    https://dpi.wi.gov/fine-arts/wisconsin-arts-celebration-project-0

    Beyond The Notes Music Festival (Erika Svanoe “Fanfare on Joy To The World”)

    https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/


    Midwest Step Up Contest
    Big thanks to our sponsor, Silent Stage Podiums! If you're heading to the Midwest Clinic, swing by Booth #748 before Friday at noon and snap a creative pic on the Silent Stage podium. Follow + tag Beyond The Notes (FB) and Silent Stage Podiums (IG) to enter.  Winners announced on these platforms at NOON on Friday, Dec. 19, 2025.

    Prizes:
     • Best “Style” Photo: $20 Starbucks gift card + ArtLess shirt
     • Random Winner: 30 seconds of airtime on the Beyond Artless Podcast (PSA, story, advice, joke… or roast Peter)

    See you at Midwest!


    Beach Band

    Many Thanks to the 1996 Valleyfair Beach Band for making an appearance on the show! To book us for gigs, just reach out to Chris! 

    Want to watch the show?  Here you go: https://youtu.be/uXKxpVZbzNs

    Want to see the hole we dug? Here you go: Beach Band Photos

    1996 Beach Band Members

    Kelley Lima

    Gus Lindquist

    Lee Peterson

    Eric Songer

    Gavin Wigg

    Todd Schendel

    Tony Baker

    Chris Gleason


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    1 hr 4 min
  • Matt Turek

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    A giant leap across the pond to Germany for the podcast today with our guest, Matt Turek.  Matt has taught in just about every capacity one can - from elementary general and high school band in an urban environment to middle school suburban to now Grade 1-10 Music at an International School on the outskirts of Hamburg, Germany.  Matt is not afraid of teaching at any level!  Sadly, Peter should be afraid of endless prattle, Chris should be afraid of dated references in the classroom and Phil should be afraid of stumbling into actual work.

    Listen all the way to the end for an answer to the band buzzer and a musical challenge request from Michael Kasper.  And - a heartfelt answer to the question “What are you most proud of?”

    Learn More About Matt Here:

    https://wabeinternationalschool.de/about-us/our-team-old/

    https://files-backend.assets.thrillshare.com/documents/asset/uploaded_file/2649/Bsd/99541e94-118c-491e-96d8-0c4af381b743/Spring_2018_District_Newsletter.pdf?disposition=inline

    Credits:

    Messiaen: Quartet for the End of Time

    Richard Nunemaker, Clarinet

    St. Thomas University, Houston, November 15, 2011

    https://youtu.be/zYpBHc8px_U?si=J_Rkk-yEnIMs8_Wy


    Engelbert Humperdinck - Hansel and Gretel (Overture) (1893)

    Georg Solti conducting the Wiener Philharmoniker

    https://youtu.be/Z7xQL6ob4QU?si=u4zGJ_QowGz-Br3A


    UW Wind Ensemble Performance "Yellow Birds" by Marie Douglas

    Scott Teeple, conductor

    https://youtu.be/Kczcs84icAQ?list=PLambIxavELha3Z8rIV0C_gC60MuwjUUhe


    FREE MUSIC: 

    Wisconsin Arts Celebration Project (Marie Douglas “Yellow Birds”)

    https://dpi.wi.gov/fine-arts/wisconsin-arts-celebration-project-0


    Beyond The Notes Music Festival (Erika Svanoe “Fanfare on Joy To The World”)

    https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/


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    1 hr 3 min
  • Tony Boldt

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    In this episode of Beyond Artless, we sit down with Tony Boldt, a passionate educator and musician from Kasson-Mantorville Schools, whose leadership and creativity continue to shape the musical experiences of young performers in his community.

    Tony shares his journey as both a teacher and a performer—reflecting on how music shaped his life, what fuels his work in education, and the joys (and occasional chaos) that come with directing student musicians. With authenticity, humor, and heart, Tony blends musicianship with mentorship in a way that reminds us why music education matters.

    What you’ll hear in this episode:

    • Tony’s path to becoming a music educator and performer
    • The realities of teaching band in a growing and evolving program
    • Why continuing to perform keeps him grounded as an educator
    • Thoughts on building culture, connection, and student confidence
    • Lessons learned from the classroom, podium, and community stage
    • The meaningful—and often hilarious—moments that define a music career

    This conversation celebrates the teachers who show up, lift others up, and inspire students to chase possibility. Tony’s perspective is a reminder that music education isn’t just about notes and technique—it’s about people, purpose, and lifelong artistry.

    Learn More About Tony Here:

    http://www.rochestercommunityband.org/dbpage.php?pg=director

    https://hub.yamaha.com/music-educators/40-under-40/2024/boldt-tony/

    Credits

    • Blue Parrot Rag, Martha Mier.  https://youtu.be/LpJ3lINGCDA?si=SdWxM10UEpOcacPy
    • Sunbloom - Gavin Lendt (Concert Band, Grade 3). Gavin Lendt captures the energy and optimism of a new day in Sunbloom, a fast-paced and uplifting Grade 3 work inspired by the motion and momentum of a runner’s journey.  https://youtu.be/o0ZcvAWc_TQ?si=nY2clFACYCKXs2x8
    • Hope Ahead, by Brian Balmages – Score & Sound https://youtu.be/SArtqsSQcxQ?si=DBNhriEYaB2i7wB7 Learn more about this ComMission Possible work here: https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/education/commission/archive

    CHECK IT OUT!

    Check out our NEW Website and get a Grade 1.5 new work "Fanfare on Joy To The World" by Erika Svanoe.  PLUS Register For:

    • ComMission Possible 2026 with Adrian Simms
    • Rising Music Educator Program
    • Building Better Bands Day

    SPECIAL GIFT TO OUR MOST DEDICATED COMMUTERS WHO ACTUALLY READ THE SHOW NOTES: https://youtu.be/yncdWVj31_A


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    1 hr 7 min

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