This show features sociologist Corey Wrenn who discusses the moral dilemma of what to feed rescued carnivorous animals, as a starting point for a broader conversation about thinking systemically and beyond only relying on individual change in the animal movement. Links for the show: Corey’s article ‘How to Help When It Hurts? Think Systemic’ in the Animal Studies Journal: https://ro.uow.edu.au/asj/vol7/iss1/8/ Corey’s website: http://www.coreyleewrenn.com/ Nick’s talk ‘Who is to blame for harm to animals?': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A7aI6eSH3U&list=PLHEijYgem7IVCZIQOKsk6Ksv8nNh48NR1&index=7&t=916s&ab_channel=VeganSociology