Is confidence the same as self-esteem? And why does praise feel so good… but never seem to last? This week, we unpack our relationship with validation, the need for acceptance, and how much of our self-worth we’ve handed over to other people. It’s a conversation about learning to trust yourself instead of waiting to be chosen.

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In this week's episode we're pulling back the curtain on the industry's toughest pill to swallow, rejection. Whether you're facing a dry audition season or looking for the courage to start your next chapter, join us as we discuss how to stop letting rejection define your career and start letting it refine your path. 

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This week’s episode features a very special guest — Sarah’s husband, Nephi. A former ballet dancer with a business degree, Nephi shares his unconventional path from ballet to working with companies like Pixar and Disney, before founding his own company — where his work earned two Academy Awards and an Emmy. After building a successful career outside the studio, he ultimately found his way back to dance as an executive director of a dance organization. It’s a full-circle conversation about leaving the stage, redefining success, and discovering that dance never really lets you go.

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This week we’re joined by Steven Goforth for an honest conversation about growing up as a male artist in ballet. From training in a nurturing environment to dancing with Nevada Ballet Theatre, Steven shares his perspective on identity, longevity, and what it means to evolve beyond the stage.

We talk transitioning into teaching, finding fulfillment outside of performance, and how curiosity and support shape the artist over time. A thoughtful, grounded conversation about growth, mentorship, and staying open to what’s next.

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Friendship hits different when you’re no longer fighting for the same spotlight.
In our first episode of the season, we talk about aging in ballet, evolving friendships, and what it means to grow with each other instead of apart.
This is the artist growing up — softer, stronger, and still standing.

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This week’s episode is all about gratitude. We’re taking a moment to reflect on what ballet has given us — the obvious and the unexpected. From friendships and resilience to moments onstage that shaped who we are, we share stories about why we’re still grateful for this art form, even with all its complexity. A thoughtful, feel-good conversation to close out the season.

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This week’s episode is a conversation we wish every ballet parent and teacher could hear. We sit down with Sarah's mom, who has a PhD in childhood development, to talk about why ballet isn’t one-size-fits-all. Some children flourish in its structure, while others struggle — and that’s okay. We explore the social dynamics of training, peer relationships, pressure, and how to truly support a child beyond technique and lead roles.

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We’re continuing our Nutcracker stories this week, and things get real. Some of these memories are a little more raw and personal than your classic holiday ballet tale—but don’t worry, we end on a hilarious conversation that reminded us why we love this crazy show. From backstage chaos to emotional moments, this episode proves these nuts have officially cracked.

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This week we’re diving into Nutcracker mayhem — swapping our funniest quick-change disasters, the roles we dreamed of, the roles we somehow always got stuck with, and the ones we never got to dance (still not over it). We relive costume malfunctions, and the kind of onstage mistakes that would’ve made Drosselmeyer retire early. It’s all light, nostalgic, unhinged holiday chaos… just like Nutcracker season itself.

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This week on Beyond the Pointe, we sit down with our longtime friend Ashleigh — now the School Director and Artistic Director of Pasadena Dance Theatre. She opens up about the unique challenges of leading a ballet school, the balance between creativity and responsibility, and how her journey wasn’t defined by perfect facility, but by intelligence, reliability, and heart. It’s an honest, inspiring look at what it really takes to sustain a career in dance — on and off the stage.

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