In this episode, I sit down with my dear friend Michelle Morgan — the world’s most prolifically published Marilyn Monroe biographer — to have one of the most personal conversations I’ve ever shared publicly.

Both Michelle and I have spent much of our lives connected to the legacy and image of Marilyn Monroe. For me, as one of the world’s most recognised Marilyn tribute artists — and for Michelle, through her writing, research, and dedication to telling Marilyn’s story with dignity and depth.

But behind all of the work and the spotlight, we both walked a very real and life-changing journey with cancer.

Together, we talk about what it was like to navigate illness while holding identities that were shaped around beauty, femininity, and being seen. We explore how cancer changed how we felt about our womanhood, our bodies, our work, and our sense of self. There were moments of fear, grief, re-shaping, and learning to meet ourselves with gentleness again.

We also talk about the unexpected gifts — the gratitude for the small joys, the slowing down, the rediscovery of what actually matters. The cup of tea in the morning. A walk in the fresh air. The kindness of people who show up. The softness we learn to give ourselves.

This conversation is not just about what we survived. It is about who we became.
 How we healed our minds, our bodies, and our spirits — piece by piece — in our own time.

Life is never the same after an experience like this.
 But there is beauty in the life that comes after.

I hope that by sharing our stories, anyone going through their own chapter of change, loss, or rebuilding will feel less alone — and more held, more seen, and more understood.