The Microsoft co-founder and philanthropist talks to Gideon about his efforts to keep global development goals alive amid rising geopolitical tensions. They discuss shrinking aid budgets, climate, technology, China-US tensions and whether Gates remains an optimist about the future.

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Presented by Gideon Rachman. Produced by Fiona Symon. Sound design is by Breen Turner

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