John and I kept this conversation short and informative about projects and progress in Michigans grouse woods.

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There is a new hire this year at RGS and its Zach Evans filling a FCD position for the eastern Great Lakes. We keep it pretty well focused on RGS and the progress made on the large Federal forest systems here in Michigan.

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Tom is one of the new owner operators at Prairie Ridge Farm.

We talk about the experiences of hunting the farm and also the lessons learned from the first year of running a preserve.

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Jeff wanted to get the word out about the new V3 dog vest and catch up on this falls plans. Of course there was plenty of BirdCamp shop talk as well.

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Nate and I eventually get into the topic I wanted to focus on with him, habitat crossover. The things he looks for when scouting for deer are many of the same things we upland hunters take note of. Brushy edges, concealment, and food sources, are in the same value to the grouse as it is to the whitetail. It's no wonder we cross paths with hunters of other disciplines while pursuing game. This is a good birdcamp conversation and I hope you enjoy it.

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I finally had Andrew on the podcast. He's one of the regulars that travel around Michigan shooting the SxS events. We mostly stayed on task.

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Matt and I almost kept to the notes but as many conversations around the fire go we wandered off into other topics a few times. a few highlights were Wing & Clay Life magazine and The Upland Habitat Conservancy.

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Number 15 Stories with Swanky. enjoy!

Ryan and I start out by ignoring the show notes and talking about hunting with our kids. We eventually get into shotgun patterns and Pattern Pros LLC. Pattern Pros offers variety boxes of shotgun shells for pattern testing your shotgun without the large price commitment.

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Kevin talks a while with me about Collar Clinic and the services he offers in the hunting electronics market. We of course do talk a little hunting.