Content warning: This episode discusses infant loss and stillbirth. Please care for yourself accordingly.

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Using Brian McLaren’s Stages of Faith from his book Faith After Doubt, we explore some of the intricacies of a faith collective from different stages. We talk about what each stage can look like, the ins- and outs- of several facets, and whether moving into different stages (or attempting to force others into them) is even the goal in the first place.

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Hold up - a podcast season on faith transitions and an opportunity to speak with a pastor who left his own church?

Ummm…where do we sign up?

This conversation was so fun…this was the first time either of us had conversed with Ryan, and we hope it’s not our last. Engaging, empathic, and entertaining, we were captivated from the get-go.

We hope you are too.

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What began as a thought exercise one day when I was fed up (pun intended) with making ONE MORE meal (actually, it was two) for ONE MORE activity in order to engage with my church community outside of a worship service turned in to a whole 40+ minute episode. We pull at the idea of Cafeteria Mormons (insert any church here, this is just our personal soup), church potlucks, and how to love the margins instead of vilifying them. Ya know…just like Jesus taught. 😘

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Nikki Revis is a business and energetics coach helping women succeed in all aspects of their lives. She’s tiny, but the woman packs a punch. She was willing to sit with me to talk about her faith journey, being raised in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and choosing to step away from the church to develop her relationship with God as an adult.

I was honored to witness all the different parts she shared here, and hearing about the contemplative journey to where she is now. Everything she’s experienced has brought about an intense strength and a softness that she carries into her life. We hope you love the conversation.

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Season TWO, friends!

This entire season will be weaving in and through the stories of people who have dealt with complicated religious experiences and how they navigated it. In this intro episode, we are setting the stage to help us all be on the same page for these conversations, with a lot of good things to keep in mind, particularly if you’ve never dealt with a faith crisis/transition/deconstruction/expansion/etc personally.

This season is one big continual conversation, and we would LOVE to hear your thoughts. Join us on the substack chat or in the Instagram feed.

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Links to listen elsewhere

PRRI study on American Religion

Pew Research on Religion in America

The Bible for Normal People

Bible for Normal People Instagram post we referenced

We sincerely hope you are enjoying this episode in comfy jammies and are making lovely memories with family and friends.

…but if not, we hope you have peace anyway.

We love your guts, and we’ll be back with full episodes on Season 2 in early February. More info to come.

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I Think You’re Wrong (But I’m Listening) by Sarah Stewart Holland and Beth Silvers

Pantsuit Politics

Crucial Conversations - Our next book club book…get a head start!

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I Think You’re Wrong (But I’m Listening) by Sarah Stewart Holland and Beth Silvers

Pantsuit Politics

Crucial Conversations - Our next book club book…get a head start!

It’s hard to overstate the mood swings felt on the journey of this episode. Maybe some of you can relate? Join us as we talk about nuance through the lens of religion, covid, and politics. Here’s to hoping this minefield helps some of you process too. 🤟🏼

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Growing up in a high-demand religion and teen pregnancy don’t usually mix well. Join us as we talk with Amy and Brenna about how they (and their family!) navigated this unexpected life event. We’ll talk about what it looked like for them, how they and family members handled the news, what NOT to do, what helped, what hurt, and what they’ve learned along the way.

There’s a little something to learn for everyone.

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