As protests continue around the state and all over the country against police killings of Black Americans, we talk with two local leaders about the specific policy changes they want to see right now. Our guests are Portland NAACP President E.D. Mondaine and Joy Alise Davis, executive director of the Portland African American Leadership Forum. Over the weekend, PAALF put out a plan calling for leaders in Portland and Multnomah County to significantly reduce law enforcement budgets and redirect that money towards reducing health and economic inequities.