In this episode, Reeves Wiedeman of New York Magazine joins us to unpack what was supposed to be the end of the legal battle between Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni — a feud that has spiraled far beyond Hollywood gossip into a full-scale public war. We get into the PR maneuvering, internet pile-ons, and whether the case is really over, or if it'll still be going through the courts.

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