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Stories From the Tour, including rabbit holes, sprinker boxes, the three minute search time, and mounds of dirt. As well as a couple of ClubLand Stories and the GRQOTW - THE GRQ PODCAST EP108

You are listening to Ep 108 of the GolfRules Questions Podcast, and in this episode Podcast Man of the People McPhee talks about a lot of rules situations from the last few weeks on Tour. Including sprinkler boxes, an original and provisional ball in the same area, and rabbit holes. We also have a few clubland stories from the real people, and of course our golfrules question of the week to answer.GRQOTW107:

Andy incurs no penalty for accidentally causing his ball to move whilst simulating the act of a stroke to determine whether he has interference.

Podcast 'Man of the People' McPhee takes us through a few of his latest refereeing jaunts, at WPS Cobram and WPS Rosebud, where the winner was one person - 22 year old Kazuma Kobori from New Zealand.

Topics spoken about:

- Dropping Zones

- Yellow Penalty Areas

- Sprinkler Boxes that is in the way

- Medical timeouts for wasp stings

- Playing two balls OR just figuring out what the actual Rule is.

ClubLand stories from Colin and Feather Duster:

- pretending to play left-handed to try get a better lie

- believing a accidental movement of the ball from a practice swing counts as a stroke

GRQOTW 108:

Playing in a stroke round at Wombat Hills, Andy the Average Golfer has a 12yr old caddie, as part of a school program.

He is playing the driveable par 4 5th hole, and he plays his 2nd shot to the green however it goes too far and over the green towards a red penalty area. As Andy arrives behind the green, he finds his caddie, who had walked ahead, standing there near the red line, laughing with some of his friends.

Andy the Average Golfer enquires about his ball and discovers that his caddie had deliberately kicked his ball as it was approaching the penalty area, which kept it out.

Andy estimates the spot where the ball would have come to rest in the penalty area, based on a brief conversation with his caddie and friends. He drops a ball inside the PA based on that estimation. He then decides to take penalty area relief and drops his ball again outside the PA. Andy holes out in four more strokes.

What is Andy the Average Golfer's score for the hole?

GOLFRULES QUESTIONS MERCHANDISEGet yourself a Roo&Coo polo: https://golfrulesquestions.myspreadshop.com/.DO YOU HAVE A RULES OF GOLF QUESTION:Email - [email protected] TO TEST YOUR RULES OF GOLF KNOWLEDGE?Head to: www.golfrulesquestions.comWANT A QUICK GOLF RULES REFERENCEHead to Instagram: @golfrules_questions (https://www.instagram.com/golfrules_questions/?hl=en)OR JOIN THE FACEBOOK COMMUNITYhttps://www.facebook.com/golfrulesquestionsLISTEN TO THE GRQ PODCAST ON APPLE OR SPOTIFYClick here: https://anchor.fm/golfrules-questionsSUBSCRIBE to GOLFRULES QUESTIONS https://bit.ly/2I8KrVH for all your golf rules#GolfRules #GolfRulesQuestions #blakey

We are back in 2024 and bringing you Episode 107, and with it are five clubland stories, a massive thank you to our contributors and those following along.We also have Podcast McPhee and Blakey go into their time at the recently played heritage classic, which is a tournament on the PGA Tour of Australasia - THE GRQ PODCAST EP107Join this channel to get access to perks:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_GzvxPbX1UQBeFluD3OLQg/joinSUBSCRIBE to GOLFRULES QUESTIONS https://bit.ly/2I8KrVH for all your golf rulesGRQOTW106 - Big P incurs one penalty stroke under his option to go back to the previous place played OUTSIDE the Penalty Area - Rule 17.2a(2).Firstly, we cover a few Clubland Stories:- Rhys would like to know what the match score is when no one heard his partner concede a putt.- DK wants to tell us about a player that made airswings at a wrong ball, and then had to proceed with the provisional ball, and whether their pro shop told him the right score.- DK also has another story about a player taking free relief from an animal footprint, which is not allowed unless there is a Local Rule.- Mr Roberts asks us about the apparent confliction of Rule 14.1 and 9.6.- Mr Roberts also tells us about a player accidentally moving their ball with a practice swing and whether that was a penalty.Blakey and Podcast then discuss their time at The Heritage Classic, a 200k tournament on the PGA Tour of Australasia.- Stuart explains when the search starts.- We had a ball moved during a search in a penalty area- One player dropped their marker on their ball just before putting- A player hit their ball less than a metre, and only just found their ball within the 3-minute time limit- Trying to distinguish where the edge of the gravel path is.GRQOTW 107 - After his tee shot, Andy the Average Golfer's ball is lying close to an irrigation box in the right rough on the 3rd hole at Wombat Hills. He is concerned he will have interference from the box so he simulates his swing and in doing so, causes his ball to move. He advises his marker that he moved his ball and he replaces the ball. He does have interference from the box, however he decides the shot is too risky so he doesn't take relief and he plays out sideways to the fairway. His next stroke lands on the putting green and he takes 3 putts to hole out - what is his hole score?..GOLFRULES QUESTIONS MERCHANDISEGet yourself a Roo&Coo polo: https://golfrulesquestions.myspreadshop.com/.DO YOU HAVE A RULES OF GOLF QUESTION:Email - [email protected] TO TEST YOUR RULES OF GOLF KNOWLEDGE?Head to: www.golfrulesquestions.comWANT A QUICK GOLF RULES REFERENCEHead to Instagram: @golfrules_questions (https://www.instagram.com/golfrules_questions/?hl=en)OR JOIN THE FACEBOOK COMMUNITYhttps://www.facebook.com/golfrulesquestionsLISTEN TO THE GRQ PODCAST ON APPLE OR SPOTIFYClick here: https://anchor.fm/golfrules-questionsSUBSCRIBE to GOLFRULES QUESTIONS https://bit.ly/2I8KrVH for all your golf rules#GolfRules #GolfRulesQuestions #blakey

Podcast McPhee is back from his refereeing journey, and he fills us in on his Australian Open experience. We also delve into four Clubland Stories, including two from a now regular question-asker Mr Roberts as well as his close second, Colin - THE GRQ PODCAST EP105Join this channel to get access to perks:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_GzvxPbX1UQBeFluD3OLQg/joinSUBSCRIBE to GOLFRULES QUESTIONS https://bit.ly/2I8KrVH for all your golf rulesGRQOTW104 - Whilst the ball that was found was unknown to be the original or the provisional ball, it was definitely one of them, and so the player must play that ball as the provisional ball. The ball that was found after three minutes is lost either way, and therefore can not be used at all.Firstly, we cover a few Clubland Stories:- Mr Roberts wants to know what happens when a struck ball doesn't make its way out of a Red Penalty Area. This comes under Rule 17.2.- Colin wants to know if he proceeded correctly when his ball was stuck up a tree. He dropped within two club-lengths of where the ball was, and this was under Rule 19.2.- Mr Roberts goes again with another tricky one and Blakey and Podcast disagree on what spray foam is deemed to be. But they do agree Mary was able to get some free relief.- Chip gives us a situation that is probably pretty common in Clubland, where a player tries to play a provisional ball for a ball that most likely went into a penalty area.GRQOTW 106 - Big P has hit his tee shot into the red penalty area running down the right side of the 14th hole. After two minutes of searching, he finds and identifies his ball. He makes a stroke at the ball and only advances it 3m. Frustrated, he makes another stroke at it from inside the PA moving it very little and makes another stroke. Very frustrated, he says he is returning to the teeing area to start the hole again.Despite some objections from others in the group, he returns to the teeing area, tees up a ball and makes a stroke, and finishes the hole. There are no players behind waiting to hit.How many penalty strokes must Big P add to his hole score?..GOLFRULES QUESTIONS MERCHANDISEGet yourself a Roo&Coo polo: https://golfrulesquestions.myspreadshop.com/.DO YOU HAVE A RULES OF GOLF QUESTION:Email - [email protected] TO TEST YOUR RULES OF GOLF KNOWLEDGE?Head to: www.golfrulesquestions.comWANT A QUICK GOLF RULES REFERENCEHead to Instagram: @golfrules_questions (https://www.instagram.com/golfrules_questions/?hl=en)OR JOIN THE FACEBOOK COMMUNITYhttps://www.facebook.com/golfrulesquestionsLISTEN TO THE GRQ PODCAST ON APPLE OR SPOTIFYClick here: https://anchor.fm/golfrules-questionsSUBSCRIBE to GOLFRULES QUESTIONS https://bit.ly/2I8KrVH for all your golf rules#GolfRules #GolfRulesQuestions #blakey

Guest Star: Fraser Nicol fills us in on his refereeing journey. How he has gone from Level 1 to Level 4, and continued to build his facebook community along the way - THE GRQ PODCAST EP105Join this channel to get access to perks:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_GzvxPbX1UQBeFluD3OLQg/joinSUBSCRIBE to GOLFRULES QUESTIONS https://bit.ly/2I8KrVH for all your golf rulesGRQOTW104 - Tyson is unable to get free relief for the safety fence that is on his line of play, as line of play interference by an immovable obstruction is only available when the player's ball is on the putting green.If a Committee believes that a safety/protective fence is interfering with the normal playing of the game, they can adopt Model Local Rule E-6.Fraser Nicol, the founder of The Golf Rules Samaritan facebook group:https://www.facebook.com/groups/thegolfrulessamaritanwas on Episode 48 of The GRQ Podcast, and spoke to us about starting the facebook group, and creating an amazing excel spreadsheet to help others learn the Rules of Golf.Since then, Fraser has got himself into a full time job with the PGA in the United Kingdom, and really enjoys applying the excellent Rules knowledge, as well as picking up other skills along the way, such as the craft of refereeing, and setting up courses for the professionals. GRQOTW105A player is searching for their tee shot and then finds a ball in the rough that he knows is a ball he hit from the teeing area.Their three minute search time then expires.He then finds another ball, and he knows this is also a ball he hit from the teeing area.The problem is he doesn't know which ball is the original and which ball is the provisional ball.What is the ruling?..GOLFRULES QUESTIONS MERCHANDISEGet yourself a Roo&Coo polo: https://golfrulesquestions.myspreadshop.com/.DO YOU HAVE A RULES OF GOLF QUESTION:Email - [email protected] TO TEST YOUR RULES OF GOLF KNOWLEDGE?Head to: www.golfrulesquestions.comWANT A QUICK GOLF RULES REFERENCEHead to Instagram: @golfrules_questions (https://www.instagram.com/golfrules_questions/?hl=en)OR JOIN THE FACEBOOK COMMUNITYhttps://www.facebook.com/golfrulesquestionsLISTEN TO THE GRQ PODCAST ON APPLE OR SPOTIFYClick here: https://anchor.fm/golfrules-questionsSUBSCRIBE to GOLFRULES QUESTIONS https://bit.ly/2I8KrVH for all your golf rules#GolfRules #GolfRulesQuestions #blakey

Stories From The Tour - THE GRQ PODCAST EP104Join this channel to get access to perks:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_GzvxPbX1UQBeFluD3OLQg/joinSUBSCRIBE to GOLFRULES QUESTIONS https://bit.ly/2I8KrVH for all your golf rulesGRQOTW103 - Big P incurs a one stroke penalty and must play the ball as it lies. Whether the player gets a general penalty depends on whether the player knew where the relief area was. Stories from the Tour:

Moving a Penalty Area Stake

Hitting a Provisional Ball when the Original had gone in a Penalty Area

Improving CATS when a Loose Impediment is moved

Original ball found after Known or Virtually Certain

How close does your marker need to be to save you from penaltyGRQOTW104Tyson hits his ball into the general area behind a safety fence that is guarding a different teeing area. He has no interference by the fence with his swing or stance, but the safety fence is on his line of play. Is Tyson able to get free relief from the fence? And if not, what are Tyson’s options?.GOLFRULES QUESTIONS MERCHANDISEGet yourself a Roo&Coo polo: https://golfrulesquestions.myspreadshop.com/.DO YOU HAVE A RULES OF GOLF QUESTION:Email - [email protected] TO TEST YOUR RULES OF GOLF KNOWLEDGE?Head to: www.golfrulesquestions.comWANT A QUICK GOLF RULES REFERENCEHead to Instagram: @golfrules_questions (https://www.instagram.com/golfrules_questions/?hl=en)OR JOIN THE FACEBOOK COMMUNITYhttps://www.facebook.com/golfrulesquestionsLISTEN TO THE GRQ PODCAST ON APPLE OR SPOTIFYClick here: https://anchor.fm/golfrules-questionsSUBSCRIBE to GOLFRULES QUESTIONS https://bit.ly/2I8KrVH for all your golf rules#GolfRules #GolfRulesQuestions #blakey

Clubland Stories October - THE GRQ PODCAST EP103Join this channel to get access to perks:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_GzvxPbX1UQBeFluD3OLQg/joinSUBSCRIBE to GOLFRULES QUESTIONS https://bit.ly/2I8KrVH for all your golf rulesGRQOTW102 - There are no penalty strokes, as any player is allowed to move a removed flagstick whilst a ball is in motion.Clubland Stories1. Known or Virtual Certainty Ball is in Penalty Area - Karin2. Player Wants to Continue with Provisional Ball But Another Player Finds Their Original - Sue3. Player Likes to Move Tee Markers - Webbo4. Player Penalised for Getting Angry in a Bunker, Finds Out Later it Shouldn't Have Been a Penalty - 5. Incorrect Line of Flight Relief From a Penalty Area - ColinGRQOTW102Big P is playing an individual stroke round at Wombat Hills. His tee shot on the 15th hole has come to rest in very thick grass near the top of a bunker. Big P decides to take unplayable ball relief, using lateral relief. There is GA and the bunker within the relief area. Prior to dropping, Big P replaces a divot in the relief area and then drops where the ball hits the GA first but rolls into the bunker. Marcela advises Big P that he needs to drop again as it rolled into another part of the course but also suggests that he has improved one of his CATS. For his second drop, Big P drops into the bunker, where the ball comes to rest in the relief area..GOLFRULES QUESTIONS MERCHANDISEGet yourself a Roo&Coo polo: https://golfrulesquestions.myspreadshop.com/.DO YOU HAVE A RULES OF GOLF QUESTION:Email - [email protected] TO TEST YOUR RULES OF GOLF KNOWLEDGE?Head to: www.golfrulesquestions.comWANT A QUICK GOLF RULES REFERENCEHead to Instagram: @golfrules_questions (https://www.instagram.com/golfrules_questions/?hl=en)OR JOIN THE FACEBOOK COMMUNITYhttps://www.facebook.com/golfrulesquestionsLISTEN TO THE GRQ PODCAST ON APPLE OR SPOTIFYClick here: https://anchor.fm/golfrules-questionsSUBSCRIBE to GOLFRULES QUESTIONS https://bit.ly/2I8KrVH for all your golf rules#GolfRules #GolfRulesQuestions #blakey

Clubland Stories September - THE GRQ PODCAST EP102Join this channel to get access to perks:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_GzvxPbX1UQBeFluD3OLQg/joinSUBSCRIBE to GOLFRULES QUESTIONS https://bit.ly/2I8KrVH for all your golf rulesGRQOTW101 - Although Andy has done the wrong thing, by dropping under Rule 17.1d(3) when he wasn't allowed to, because his original ball was found outside the PA, he was able to pick up the dropped ball and continue play with the original ball for no penalty.Clubland Stories1. Reasonable judgement on whether a ball is in a Penalty Area or OOB - Geoff2. Player accepts a penalty that he didn't incur - DK3. Jimbo doesn't replay his stroke after his devious friends stop his ball - Jimbo4. Marker doesn't know whether player is telling the truth - CBY5. Peter moves his ball without first marking it - Colin6. Ball in motion accidentally hitting equipment - Zuma GolfGRQOTW102Blakey and Stuart are playing a match at Wombat Hills. It is Blakey's turn to putt on the 1st green and he removes the flagstick from the hole, placing it on the green behind the hole. Blakey's putt is way too hard and believing the ball will definitely hit the flagstick, Stuart rushes over and picks up the flagstick. Blakey's ball continues to roll past where the flagstick was on the green. Blakey is not happy and requests a ruling. Are there any penalty strokes and what happens next?.GOLFRULES QUESTIONS MERCHANDISEGet yourself a Roo&Coo polo: https://golfrulesquestions.myspreadshop.com/.DO YOU HAVE A RULES OF GOLF QUESTION:Email - [email protected] TO TEST YOUR RULES OF GOLF KNOWLEDGE?Head to: www.golfrulesquestions.comWANT A QUICK GOLF RULES REFERENCEHead to Instagram: @golfrules_questions (https://www.instagram.com/golfrules_questions/?hl=en)OR JOIN THE FACEBOOK COMMUNITYhttps://www.facebook.com/golfrulesquestionsLISTEN TO THE GRQ PODCAST ON APPLE OR SPOTIFYClick here: https://anchor.fm/golfrules-questionsSUBSCRIBE to GOLFRULES QUESTIONS https://bit.ly/2I8KrVH for all your golf rules#GolfRules #GolfRulesQuestions #blakey

Qualifying School - THE GRQ PODCAST EP101Join this channel to get access to perks:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_GzvxPbX1UQBeFluD3OLQg/joinSUBSCRIBE to GOLFRULES QUESTIONS https://bit.ly/2I8KrVH for all your golf rulesGRQOTW100 - Ross has hit two wrong balls, but was unaware of the second wrong ball that they played, so they only get the one general penalty in stroke play.Then Ross goes back and drops his ball, but needs to actually go back to the teeing area - where the ball was last played from. The fact that the original was then found, makes no difference as the original ball was lost after the three minute search time had elapsed.The Asian Tour held a Stage 1 Q School event at Mt Derrimut Golf & Community Club last week, of which Blakey was the Tournament Director. Podcast McPhee also assisted as a referee.Prior to the start of the players arriving, Jeff Ward - the chief referee, Doug O’Keeffe - assistance Tournament Director and Blakey set up the course for the tournament.Podcast took us through a situation where a player ‘cowboy-dropped’ his ball when putting a ball into play after his original ball had gone Out Of Bounds. Podcast was able to step in and assist the player in correcting their drop, and thus saving a certain penalty.Podcast also gave us a run-down on a few rulings he had at a recent DPWT qualifying school that was also held in Melbourne, or more specifically down at Rosebud Country Club. There was a situation with a cut ball, of which Podcast provided the player a ‘yes, you can replace your ball for free’ response. Then Blakey showed a picture he had received very recently, of a ball that had almost split in half, and the important word there is almost, as the ball was still attached and from all accounts still in one piece. Being in one piece just meant that the player could replace their ball on the spot where it had come to rest. Whereas had the ball split into pieces, even if just two pieces, the player must cancel the stroke, replace a ball on the previous spot and then play again. Finally, an absolute beauty of a ruling when a player hit his ball over the back of the green, or so he thought. He searched for three minutes before heading back to hit another ball. Just as he was chipping on for what could have been a five, his original ball was found in the hole, to which Podcast delivered the good news that he had made an eagle. His second ball did not count, as his hole was already over.GRQOTW101In an individual stroke play event, Andy the Average Golfer hooks his tee shot left towards a red penalty area on the 3rd hole at Wombat Hills. His group searches for around 1 minute in the thick grass outside the PA and frustrated, Andy drops a ball using lateral relief from the red penalty area, even though it is not known or virtually certain to be in the PA. He is about to play his next stroke with the dropped ball, when someone else finds his original ball in the thick grass outside the PA, well within the 3 minutes of search time. Which ball must Andy play and are there any penalty strokes?.GOLFRULES QUESTIONS MERCHANDISEGet yourself a Roo&Coo polo: https://golfrulesquestions.myspreadshop.com/.DO YOU HAVE A RULES OF GOLF QUESTION:Email - [email protected] TO TEST YOUR RULES OF GOLF KNOWLEDGE?Head to: www.golfrulesquestions.comWANT A QUICK GOLF RULES REFERENCEHead to Instagram: @golfrules_questions (https://www.instagram.com/golfrules_questions/?hl=en)OR JOIN THE FACEBOOK COMMUNITYhttps://www.facebook.com/golfrulesquestionsLISTEN TO THE GRQ PODCAST ON APPLE OR SPOTIFYClick here: https://anchor.fm/golfrules-questionsSUBSCRIBE to GOLFRULES QUESTIONS https://bit.ly/2I8KrVH for all your golf rules#GolfRules #GolfRulesQuestions #blakey

Cracked a Century - THE GRQ PODCAST EP100Join this channel to get access to perks:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_GzvxPbX1UQBeFluD3OLQg/joinSUBSCRIBE to GOLFRULES QUESTIONS https://bit.ly/2I8KrVH for all your golf rulesGRQOTW99 Answer:Blakey definitely incurs a general penalty for his advice to Stuart, whereas Stuart was merely making a remark about his poor bunker play. Although a referee could go into further questioning to confirm the assumption. Stuart does incur the one stroke penalty for the stroke-and-distance.Stuart and Blakey got the gang back together and are joined by the very special guest, from The My Love of Golf Podcast - Rossco 'BMW' Flannigan to take a trip down memory lane.We cover all things GolfRules Questions podcast, how it got started, how cheap Blakey is, and how the Rules and the Rules knowedge of Stuart and Blakey have developed during that time.GRQOTW 100Ross pushes his tee shot right into the rough. He playshis 2nd shot across the fairway into the left rough. He plays his 3rdshot to just short of the green. Upon reaching that ball short of thegreen, he realises it is not his ball and he has played a wrong ball.He returns to where he made his 3rd shot from to search and cannotfind his ball, although he does find another in the area, which he nowbelieves was the ball he hit for his 2nd shot. He returns to the right rough, where he made his 2nd shot from, to proceed under S&D for a lost ball. He drops correctly in the right rough using his bestestimate, when he finds his original ball which he hit from the teeingarea. Where must Ross make his next stroke from and what stroke will it be?.GOLFRULES QUESTIONS MERCHANDISEGet yourself a Roo&Coo polo: https://golfrulesquestions.myspreadshop.com/.DO YOU HAVE A RULES OF GOLF QUESTION:Email - [email protected] TO TEST YOUR RULES OF GOLF KNOWLEDGE?Head to: www.golfrulesquestions.comWANT A QUICK GOLF RULES REFERENCEHead to Instagram: @golfrules_questions (https://www.instagram.com/golfrules_questions/?hl=en)OR JOIN THE FACEBOOK COMMUNITYhttps://www.facebook.com/golfrulesquestionsLISTEN TO THE GRQ PODCAST ON APPLE OR SPOTIFYClick here: https://anchor.fm/golfrules-questionsSUBSCRIBE to GOLFRULES QUESTIONS https://bit.ly/2I8KrVH for all your golf rules#GolfRules #GolfRulesQuestions #blakey

YouTube Community Question Run-Down - THE GRQ PODCAST EP99

GRQOTW98 Answer:

Sharon played from a wrong place that was also a serious breach, as they should have taken stroke-and-distance for their ball out of bounds. They failed to fix their mistake in time and therefore the only penalty for them is disqualification.

Podcast and Marcela go through the last five Community Questions on YouTube.

GRQOTW 99

During an individual stroke round, Stuart's ball lies in a greenside bunker on the 17th hole at Wombat Hills. He makes a stroke and the ball flies right over the green and into a red penalty area behind the hole. In frustration, he calls out, "what am I doing wrong?" Blakey standing nearby, says, "Mate, you need to take more sand during the shot." Stuart then rakes the bunker. After considering his penalty area relief options, Stuart decides to proceed under stroke and distance and drop in the same bunker that he just played from, which he does. Are there any penalty strokes to either player?