Tumisho Masha and Monwabisi Thethe shoot the breeze and discuss what it really means to forgive in our everyday lives and why we can do it if we remember Candice Mama's example, having forgiven the man who murdered her father. Speaking of Candice, the gents talk about the role of the media one consumes and how it affects one's view on the world. Also, did you know the Springboks lost their BMW and ABSA sponsorships? Let's speculate why. www.cliffcentral.com