Boardrooms and Bedrooms – The Podcast for Couples in Business

Let’s be honest here – talking about things like sex and intimacy can be all a bit uncomfortable for a lot of couples. We get that. But what we also see in our work with couples in business is that the way you relate to one another in the bedroom has big ramifications for how well things go for you in the boardroom (aka your business).

And that’s why today’s episode of Boardrooms and Bedrooms is so necessary. Vital even!

Isiah McKimmie is a sexologist and therapist who works with couples who feel more like housemates/co-workers than lovers, those who have drifted apart, and couples for whom sex is a big fat scary elephant in the room whose presence is felt but not mentioned.

While creating and maintaining intimacy is hard enough for most busy couples, Isiah explains why the challenge is even greater for couples in business who can easily assume that spending lots of time together is enough to nurture that deeper connection. We also delve into the relationship between a power imbalance and sexual desire – this is really interesting to understand – and learn the one thing couples must do to stay on top (pun intended).

In this episode we chat about:

Talking about sex for a living.

The reasons why couples come to Isiah.

Why intimacy is such a challenge for couples in business.

Why just spending time together doesn’t create intimacy.

What couples need to overcome to correct an imbalance.

Why couples reach out for support.

Isiah’s message for couples in business who are struggling.

An example of one couple in business who were at breaking point.

Why the lack of sex in that relationship was causing the wife so much pain.

The surprising truth around sex drive in men vs women.

The real impact of poor connection on your business.

The simple daily act that helped one couple reconnect.

Why the tools couples learn in therapy can be better than a vibrator.

What is a power imbalance and how does it impact your relationship?

The link between withholding sex and the need for more power.

Key signs of a power imbalance.

Isiah’s advice for addressing a power imbalance.

Choosing the right language to broach sensitive subjects.

Why making conscious change in your relationship takes strength.

The need for external support to overcome major challenges.

The one thing couples in business must do to succeed.

Episode resources:

Website:  www.isiah-mckimmie.com

Facebook: www.facebook.com/Isiah

Instagram: www.instagram.com/isiahmckimmie.sexologist

LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/isiah-mckimmie-52320153

 **

 Thank you so much for listening to this episode. Our goal is to share these valuable insights,

They say love conquers all, and this week’s episode of Boardrooms and Bedrooms offers up our most inspiring struggle-to-success story on the podcast so far, and a solid lesson for all couples in business.

In 2015 Tara Baker and Arlia Hassel were enjoying a carefree holiday on Rottnest Island, off the coast of Perth, when a simple accident saw Arlia airlifted to the mainland for life-saving surgery.

The journey that followed was a challenging one for the couple, who overcame the odds and got engaged 18 months later. Their search for wedding inspiration exposed a massive gap in the market for the LGBTQ (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, questioning) community worldwide. Seizing the opportunity, the pair created Dancing With Her, a magazine and blog which celebrate sexually diverse women in love.

With around one year in the business behind them, Tara and Arlia have a lot to share about how their business has evolved and the challenges they’ve faced during that time. Their story is full of inspiration and a testament to the power of love, perseverance, and patience.

In this episode we chat about:

What is Dancing With Her.

How their business is disrupting the traditional wedding industry space.

The accident that left Arlia fighting for her life.

Tara’s experience supporting Arlia alongside her family.

How Tara felt not knowing if Arlia would even remember her.

Their conversation about marriage just hours before the accident.

Arlia’s rehabilitation and her expectations for the future.

How the accident has changed Arlia.

Why they started their business.

What motivates them to persevere, despite the challenges.

How they have pioneered the LGBTQ+ wedding space globally.

The process of getting started and how it has evolved.

Why they choose to limit their print run.

Their backgrounds prior to going into business together.

Their message for wedding vendors.

How they manage the workload and their business relationship.

The impact of the business on their personal relationship.

Discovering their strengths and designing their business around that.

The biggest thing they learned in the first 12 months.

What they wished they had known at the beginning.

Episode resources:

For more about Dancing with Her…

Website:  www.dancingwithher.com

Instagram: www.instagram.com/dancingwithher

Facebook: www.facebook.com/dancingwithher

Twitter: twitter.com/dancingwithher

Thank you so much for listening to this episode — we would love to read your comments below. Our goal is to share these valuable insights, information, and ideas with as many couples in business as possible. If you enjoyed this episode and know someone else who might too, please share it amongst your network. You can also leave a 5-star review in iTunes, that way we can inspire more people together.

 

They say love conquers all, and this week’s episode of Boardrooms and Bedrooms offers up our most inspiring struggle-to-success story on the podcast so far, and a solid lesson for all couples in business.

In 2015 Tara Baker and Arlia Hassel were enjoying a carefree holiday on Rottnest Island, off the coast of Perth, when a simple accident saw Arlia airlifted to the mainland for life-saving surgery.

The journey that followed was a challenging one for the couple, who overcame the odds and got engaged 18 months later. Their search for wedding inspiration exposed a massive gap in the market for the LGBTQ (lesbian, gay,

Krystal and Curtis Jackson founded their business, Jackson Strength, to help both athletes and run-of-the-mill individuals to maintain their health and fitness.

Before they started Jackson Strength, Krystal was an All-American volleyball player and Curtis is an accomplished college volleyball player. Their amazing careers as sports individuals paved the way into creating the business.

They have continued to train as a family that has helped both their relationship as a couple in business as well as their time for their children.

In this episode we chat about:

How these two athletes are able to make fitness and health their business.

Why is it important for families to work out together?

“If your kids see you taking care of yourself… your kids are automatically, hopefully, going to instill that in themselves”

How are they able to manage their business in San Diego from Montana.

Why Curtis hunt the meat that they eat at home.

How working out together as a couple keeps their relationship strong.

How their “systems” work for their business.

How they balance work and family with their business set up.

“If there is a good system, there is no decision to be made, they just go by the system”

How they resolve disagreements with their marriage and business.

Episode resources:

For more about Jackson Strength, visit http://www.jacksonstrength.com

Their individual websites are www.curtisrjackson.com and www.krystaljackson.com

Their social media handles are @jacksonstrengthacademy, @krystaljackson12 and @curtisrjackson

Thank you so much for listening to this episode — we would love to read your comments below. Our goal is to share these valuable insights, information and ideas with as many couples in business as possible. If you enjoyed this episode and know someone else who might too, please share it amongst your network. You can also leave a 5-star review in iTunes, that way we can inspire more people together.

For more episodes, please visit http://www.instituteforcouplesinbusiness.com/podcast

 

Krystal and Curtis Jackson founded their business, Jackson Strength, to help both athletes and run-of-the-mill individuals to maintain their health and fitness.

Before they started Jackson Strength, Krystal was an All-American volleyball player and Curtis is an accomplished college volleyball player. Their amazing careers as sports individuals paved the way into creating the business.

They have continued to train as a family that has helped both their relationship as a couple in business as well as their time for their children.

In this episode we chat about:

How these two athletes are able to make fitness and health their business.

Why is it important for families to work out together?

“If your kids see you taking care of yourself… your kids are automatically, hopefully, going to instill that in themselves”

How are they able to manage their business in San Diego from Montana.

Why Curtis hunt the meat that they eat at home.

How working out together as a couple keeps their relationship strong.

How their “systems” work for their business.

How they balance work and family with their business set up.

“If there is a good system, there is no decision to be made, they just go by the system”

How they resolve disagreements with their marriage and business.

Episode resources:

For more about Jackson Strength,

 

On this episode, Rebecca Plant sits on the other side of the microphone. Interviewed by her husband, Edward, they talked about the power of HER in business.

Rebecca Plant, a successful sportswoman and businesswoman, talks about how the female can be a reckoning force in the business with her experiences or simply said, ‘the power of HER’. Rebecca is the CEO and founder of The Business League and The Institute for Couples in Business. The Institute for Couples in Business that aims to help couples with the complexity of running a business with the person you love.

Rebecca is also the host of the Boardrooms and Bedrooms podcast.

In this episode we chat about:

Tables are turned because Rebecca is interviewed by Edward.

How Rebecca runs her two businesses alongside her husband.

Rebecca elaborates on her roles and how she steers the business.

How Rebecca initiates projects and creates momentum.

How Rebecca and Edward’s dynamics play along with their business partnership.

The superpower of couples in business.

How to address the challenge that the female can be relegated to the sidelines

“The element of storytelling that a woman can bring to the business.”

The effects of the “masculine” energy for couples in business.

Challenges of energetic shift and power struggle with couples.

“To make sure that there is equal job satisfaction and to ensure the reason that you’re doing this together… is to see the best of each other.”

Episode resources:

For more about The Institute for Couples in Business, visit http://www.instituteforcouplesinbusiness.com and for The Business League, visit https://www.thebusinessleague.com.au

Thank you so much for listening to this episode — we would love to read your comments below. Our goal is to share these valuable insights, information, and ideas with as many couples in business as possible. If you enjoyed this episode and know someone else who might too, please share it amongst your network. You can also leave a 5-star review in iTunes, that way we can inspire more people together.

 

On this episode, Rebecca Plant sits on the other side of the microphone. Interviewed by her husband, Edward, they talked about the power of HER in business.

Rebecca Plant, a successful sportswoman and businesswoman, talks about how the female can be a reckoning force in the business with her experiences or simply said, ‘the power of HER’. Rebecca is the CEO and founder of The Business League and The Institute for Couples in Business. The Institute for Couples in Business that aims to help couples with the complexity of running a business with the person you love.

Rebecca is also the host of the Boardrooms and Bedrooms podcast.

In this episode we chat about:

Tables are turned because Rebecca is interviewed by Edward.

How Rebecca runs her two businesses alongside her husband.

Rebecca elaborates on her roles and how she steers the business.

How Rebecca initiates projects and creates momentum.

How Rebecca and Edward’s dynamics play along with their business partnership.

The superpower of couples in business.

How to address the challenge that the female can be relegated to the sidelines

“The element of storytelling that a woman can bring to the business.”

The effects of the “masculine” energy for couples in business.

Challenges of energetic shift and power struggle with couples.

Diem and Werna Fuggersberger are the founders of Berger Ingredients, a manufacturing company that focuses on wet and dry ingredients supply. They have successfully taken aside ego in their journey as couples in business.Before they ventured into their company, Diem and Werner experienced life-changing problems in their former business that made them $900,000 in debt. This has become their inspiration in creating Berger Ingredients. Using the lessons learned from their mistakes, they were able to pay their debts and founded another company called Coco & Lucas’ Kitchen.In this episode we chat about: How Berger Ingredients’ creation had a profound impact on their family.The inspiration behind Coco & Lucas’ Kitchen.How and when they went from $900,000 in debt to multi-millions in assets.The lifestyle changes they employed to accompany their success.How they settle the differences in their beliefs as couples.How Werner mentors Diem in running Coco & Lucas’ Kitchen.How they split their dynamic roles both in their companies as well as at home.How being a refugee affects Diem’s work ethic in the company.Benefits of being a good negotiator.How hands-on they are when it comes to their businesses.“We all have disagreements… at the end of the day, we have to draw out what’s really the focus of the business.”Putting ego out of the window for the business.Episode resources:For more about Berger Ingredients, visit www.bergeringredients.com.au and for Coco & Lucas, visit www.cocoandlucas.com.au.Thank you so much for listening to this episode — we would love to read your comments below. Our goal is to share these valuable insights, information, and ideas with as many couples in business as possible. If you enjoyed this episode and know someone else who might too, please share it amongst your network. You can also leave a 5-star review in iTunes, that way we can inspire more people together.For more episodes of this podcast, click here.Share the podcast love!Thank you so much for listening to this episode — we would love to read your comments below. Our goal is to share these valuable insights, information and ideas with as many couples in business as possible. If you enjoyed this episode and know someone else who might too, please share it amongst your network. You can also leave a 5-star review in iTunes, that way we can inspire more people together.

Most of you know Edward Plant as co-founder and head coach at the Institute for Couples in Business. Others know him through his work at The Business League. Some of you may also know him as wine lover, doting dad and husband to wife Bec.

But many may not know much about Ed’s former life (not to be confused with his double life as a Prince Harry look-a-like)…

Ed served in the Australian Army for 17 years. Having trained as an engineer, he worked his way up to the rank of Major. He was responsible for leading troops in combat and non-combat missions in Iraq, Papua New Guinea, Singapore and Malaysia.

In 2010 Ed left the army to pursue a vision more closely aligned with his personal values. He began sharing his wealth of knowledge and experience around leadership to support business owners to lead their teams to bigger, sustainable success.

And in this episode of Boardrooms and Bedrooms, Ed shares the details of what his life looked like back then, and how his opposition to the Army’s brand of leadership inspires the work he does to support couples in business today.

 

In this episode we chat about:

How drastically life has changed since Ed’s Army days.

The type of projects Ed worked on in the Army and the impacts of those.

Why the impact of his work with couples in business is more tangible.

What does ‘leading better’ mean for you?

How the death of Ed’s dad inspired his own definition of leadership.

Leadership in business vs leadership in your relationship.

What leadership looks like in Ed and Bec’s relationship.

The 3 key areas for Couples in Business to lead better.

Why is leadership important, especially for partnerships.

When and how to shut up and speak up.

Mixing Boardrooms and Bedrooms.

Ed and Bec’s best-selling book Lead-The-Ship.

The Framework for Leadership explained in the book.

Intuitive leadership vs Cookie-Cutter leadership.

Why the Army’s style of leadership conflicted with Ed’s own style.

The simple bonding exercise that brought Ed’s team together.

Why diggers from 20 years ago still stay in touch.

Understanding your natural Leadership style.

How your Values influence your personal leadership style.

What Brene Brown teaches us about leadership.

Why you need to know your partner’s leadership style.

The one thing Ed wished he’d known when he started out in business with Bec.

Your free chapter download

If you would like to read the chapter on Military Leadership from Ed and Bec’s international best-selling book Lead-The-Ship, you can download your free copy here. To access a full hardcopy version, go to lead-the-ship.com.

Episode resources:

Websites: www.instituteforcouplesinbusiness.com and www.lead-better.com.au.

FaceBook: https://www.facebook.com/edwardandrebeccaplant/

Couples in Business Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/businesscouples

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edward-plant-8982b218/

Share the podcast love!

Thank you so much for listening to this episode — we would love to read your comments below. Our goal is to share these valuable insights, information and ideas with as many couples in business as possible. If you enjoyed this episode and know someone else who might too, please share it amongst your network. You can also

A global search for joy led one visionary couple to create a conscious business which not only supports their family but countless others around the world.

Ben and Patty Glennon are the owners of Joy Beans – Organic Coffee Roasters, which supplies ethical organic coffee beans to conscious cafes and retailers around Australia. They are based on the Gold Coast in sunny Queensland, where they also run a cafe serving up their beautiful brews.

It was their quest to experience more joy in life that saw them travel through Hawaii, the Rocky Mountains, California, Central and South America. Their experience working in orphanages inspired them to give back to the people who’d given them so much joy.

Now with two young children of their own, the Glennons donate 10% of their profits to programs that support orphaned and abused children in Columbia, Ethiopia, Mexico, Indonesia and Peru — the same countries from which they source their ethical beans.

Their story is inspiring, and a beautiful reminder of the power of vision and celebrating one another’s strengths to have huge impact in your business.  

In this episode we chat about:

How the Joy Beans baby was conceived.

Consciously expressing the vision behind the brand.

How Ben and Patty ended up in business together.

Harnessing the power of their complementary skills and styles.

Their daily practice that consciously celebrates their opposing strengths.

What life was like with “twins” — a start-up and a newborn baby boy.

How they balance business and kids.

What travel and other cultures taught them about blending family and business.

What their kids are learning from them.

The 8-year-old orphan who inspired them with his entrepreneurial spirit.

Why tough conversations are a daily feature for them.

How humour and honesty create a real culture among their staff and customers.

What they know now that they wished they’d known from the start.

Episode resources:

For more about Joy Beans – Organic Coffee Roasters, visit joybeans.com.au.

Check them out on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/joybeanscoffee/

Follow them on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joybeanscoffee

Visit the cafe at 18/109 West Burleigh Road, Burleigh Waters, Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia. They’re open Monday-Friday, 7am-2pm and Saturdays, 8am-1pm.

Share the podcast love ~ Rate, Review and Subscribe!

Thank you so much for listening to this episode — we would love to read your comments below. Our goal is to share these valuable insights, information and ideas with as many couples in business as possible. If you enjoyed this episode and know someone else who might too, please share it amongst your network. You can also leave a 5-star review in iTunes, that way we can inspire more people together.

A global search for joy led one visionary couple to create a conscious business which not only supports their family but countless others around the world.

Ben and Patty Glennon are the owners of Joy Beans – Organic Coffee Roasters, which supplies ethical organic coffee beans to conscious cafes and retailers around Australia. They are based on the Gold Coast in sunny Queensland, where they also run a cafe serving up their beautiful brews.

It was their quest to experience more joy in life that saw them travel through Hawaii, the Rocky Mountains, California, Central and South America. Their experience working in orphanages inspired them to give back to the people who’d given them so much joy.

Now with two young children of their own,

We go Stateside (or at least our phone line does) for this episode of Boardrooms and Bedrooms with Joel and Julie Landi. This dynamic husband-and-wife team are founders of The Performance Group, a consultancy service which provides corporate conflict resolution and emotional intelligence skills to companies and professionals around the world. Enquire now for our online business training services in Australia. 

Between them they have 45 years’ experience, both working together and in their own careers. It was the struggles that they experienced within their own relationship, which took them to the brink of divorce, that provide the basis for their expertise in conflict.

Their newest venture, Power Couples, helps men and women balance the demands of their careers with the needs of their marriage. These are couples who are feeling the strains of their success and want to end the power struggle to enjoy more intimacy and impact.

In this episode we chat about:

Their work at The Performance Group.

The backstory: how hardship led them to work together.

Combining their strengths to build a business based shared beliefs.

Why they almost divorced after 7 years of marriage.

How their final conflict resolution led to an unexpected fresh start.

The turning point that led Joel to ask, Do you want to start again?

The spiritual transformation: “When people lose their way, they lose their why.”  

Drawing on their own suffering to support other couples.

The key signs that your relationship is on the rocks.

Learn the behaviours and attitudes that can poison your marriage.

The power of vulnerability and the take that privilege seriously.

Top three things couples can do to resolve conflict.

“Marriage doesn’t fail… It’s just one or both people let go and they give up.”

Why you must remove anger from the decision-making process.

The blind man and elephant metaphor (getting to the truth of the conflict).

How the Boardroom is reflected in the Bedroom.

“Be a student not a judge of your spouse”.

What they know now, that they wish they had known in the beginning.

The importance of understanding each other’s ‘Love Languages’.

Expect your partner and dynamics to change (and be excited by that).

Episode resources:

For more about Joel and Julie’s work at The Performance Group, visit www.theperformancegroup.us and www.tpgpowercouples.com.

Could you use some simple take-home tools to Diffuse Fights Fast?

Join us for our next online training, Million Dollar Playbook for Couples in Business. It’s happening on Wednesday, April 18, at 12.30PM (AEST). It’s all about helping you to earn more money in your business with less friction and more ease. It doesn’t have to hard, right? Find out more and register HERE.

SHARE THE PODCAST LOVE~ RATE, REVIEW AND SUBSCRIBE!

Our goal is to reach as many couples in business as possible and we need your help to make that happen. If you enjoy an episode and know someone else who might too, please share this page link amongst your network. You can also leave a 5-star review and Subscribe to this podcast in iTunes to help us inspire more people together.

We go Stateside (or at least our phone line does) for this episode of Boardrooms and Bedrooms with Joel and Julie Landi. This dynamic husband-and-wife team are founders of The Performance Group, a consultancy service which provides corporate conflict resolution and emotional intelligence skill...

Andy and Angela Smith are the owners of Dr. Drip, a highly successful plumbing business based in Sydney, NSW. They are also the founders of Lifestyle Tradie, a mentoring service for trade business owners across Australia wanting the tools and support to grow their operation.

When Ange first quit her stable corporate job to join Andy in the plumbing business, it was far from smooth sailing. There were some major adjustments to be made as Andy let go of the reins in order to allow others to take on new roles in the business.  

More than a decade later, their complementary skills and focus on ‘family first’ sees them enjoying the freedom to spend loads of quality time with their children and reaping the rewards of two thriving businesses.  

In this episode we chat about:

The changes that allowed Dr Drip to grow;

Why Angela quit her corporate career to join Andy in the business;

Why their first attempt at working together only last 3 months (and who fired who!);

Take #2 – Setting boundaries and playing to their strengths;

How Andy learnt to let go and change his mindset;

Taking ownership of his new role and leaving others to theirs;

How their second business was born;

The impacts of growing on the homefront;

The point where Ange said ‘This has to stop’;

Sharing the work and home loads;

What their kids have learnt from their business journey;

How Andy and Ange approach arguments;

Andy’s core beliefs around business and life;

How they make decisions around opportunities;

What they see as their “Super Powers”;

The importance of knowing your partner;

What they know now that they wished they’d known starting out;

The secret to their success.

Episode resources:

Dr. Drip Plumbing Professionals: www.drdripplumbing.com.au

Lifestyle Tradie: www.lifestyletradie.com.au

SHARE THE PODCAST LOVE~ RATE, REVIEW AND SUBSCRIBE!

Our goal is to reach as many couples in business as possible and we need your help to make that happen. If you enjoy an episode and know someone else who might too, please share this page link amongst your network. You can also leave a 5-star review and Subscribe to this podcast in iTunes to help us inspire more people together.

Would you like to be a guest on this podcast?

We are always on the hunt for new talent (*talent is anyone willing to share their story!) to be interviewed on Boardrooms and Bedrooms. The show features couples in business but also experts on the topics that support couples to achieve their best in business and in love — this could be anything from leadership through to love languages. If you have a story or skill to share that would benefit couples in business, please tell us more about yourself HERE and we’ll come back to you with the next steps.

Dr Dan Hanson is an internationally recognised expert in dentistry. He specialises in early interceptive treatment of soft tissue dysfunction, breathing dysfunction and malocclusion. Put more simply, he’s passionate about helping children to sleep, breathe, eat and grow well!

So why am I talking to a dentist on a podcast aimed at supporting couples in business?

A book that Dan was drawn to back in 2012 led him to discover a men’s group that ignited his passion for self-actualisation. Encouraged by his wife Rachel, they now run retreats for other couples to master the art of presence. Again, put simply: how to stop fighting with yourself and others.

In this episode we chat about:

Dan’s life-changing work with children;

What is ‘Men’s Work’;

The tribal origins of men’s support networks;

How Dan discovered the concept of Men’s Groups;

The childhood patterns that led to his mistrust of men;

Why Dan set up his own Men’s Group;

How a Men’s Group programs saved his marriage;

The signs that his marriage was in crisis;  

Presence and awareness vs reaction and response;

“Little boy” and “little girl” behaviours;

How to suggest a support network to someone;

How Rachel led the way in starting their business;

Dan and Rachel’s roles and rules;

The value of setting and respecting boundaries;

The no-go zones before going to bed.

Dr Dan’s ‘one word’ for couples in business.

Episode resources:

The Men’s Group: mensgroup.org.au

Dr. Dan’s dental practice: drdanhanson.com and www.healdentalcare.com.au

Books mentioned:

The New Manhood by Steve Biddulph

Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus by John Gray

SHARE THE PODCAST LOVE~ RATE, REVIEW AND SUBSCRIBE!

Our goal is to reach as many couples in business as possible and we need your help to make that happen. If you enjoy an episode and know someone else who might too, please share this page link amongst your network. You can also leave a 5-star review and Subscribe to this podcast in iTunes to help us inspire more people together.

Would you like to be a guest on this podcast?

We are always on the hunt for new talent (*talent is anyone willing to share their story!) to be interviewed on Boardrooms and Bedrooms. The show features couples in business but also experts on the topics that support couples to achieve their best in business and in love — this could be anything from leadership through to love languages. If you have a story or skill to share that would benefit couples in business, please tell us more about yourself HERE and we’ll come back to you with the next steps.

 

Dr Dan Hanson is an internationally recognised expert in dentistry. He specialises in early interceptive treatment of soft tissue dysfunction, breathing dysfunction and malocclusion. Put more simply, he’s passionate about helping children to sleep, breathe, eat and grow well!

So why am I talking to a dentist on a podcast aimed at supporting couples in business?

A book that Dan was drawn to back in 2012 led him to discover a men’s group that ignited his passion for self-actualisation. Encouraged by his wife Rachel, they now run retreats for other couples to master the art of presence. Again, put simply: how to stop fighting with yourself and others.

In this episode we chat about:

Dan’s life-changing work with children;

What is ‘Men’s Work’;

The tribal origins of men’s support networks;