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  • Jason Cutter - Selling With Authentic Persuasion – CJ61
    As a channel manager, you constantly have to persuade. You have to sell your company, your products, and your channel program to your partners. You have to convince your sales teams and your management why you need the channel. Jason Cutter, author of Selling With Authentic Persuasion, shares how channel sales and partner managers can gain influence and success by selling with authentic persuasion.
    43 min
  • Rob Spee: A Sailing Journey Through Covid

    For episode 60, I’m taking a break from our usual channel topics to share my story of sailing 1500 miles across the Atlantic Ocean. Hear what it’s like to sail from the Virgin Islands in the Caribbean to Rhode Island in the middle of the global pandemic. This is my “little big one” with 5 crew and 2 captains, including one of my sailing heros, Tania Abei, the author of Maiden Voyage. 

    HIGHLIGHTS
    Our ride: Aphrodite – Swan 68
    A fiery sunrise to start the day
    Cobalt blue in the middle of the ocean
    Dolphins coming back to play
    The mysterious fogbow
    LINKS & RESOURCES
      • Find Rob on LinkedIn and Twitter
      • Read more about Tania Abei and get a copy of Maiden Voyage
      • Learn more about Offshore Passage Opportunities
      • Check out the special offer for 2 free months of Magentrix
      • The post Rob Spee: A Sailing Journey Through Covid first appeared on Channel Journeys.
        29 min
      • Paul Bird: Stop Making These 3 Channel Management Mistakes

        At this time when we’re not doing trade shows or in person events, we have to find creative ways to reach and connect with our partners.  And knowing what not to do is as important as knowing what to do. Paul Bird, Salesforce Enthusiast and Portal Wizard at Magentrix, shares the top channel management mistakes vendors make and the biggest opportunities for partner automation.

        KEY TAKEAWAYS

        3 big channel management mistakes that vendors make are:

        1. Not having a partner engagement strategy. Don’t expect that just because you stand up a portal, all of a sudden you will have a flood of partners logging in and engaging with your content. You need to develop an engagement strategy around how you will build mindshare and walletshare, and how you will turn your partner network into a partner community. 

        2. Not having solid, relevant content for partners.  That content doesn’t have to be any different than the content you’re developing for your direct sales force. It does have to be easy and quick to consume, relevant to when they need it during the sales cycle, with the ability for partners to co-brand it with their own logo and information. 

        3. Not treating your partners like they are your most important VIPs. Often partners get treated like employees rather than as the most important customer you have. You want to treat partners like they are your most important people in your network. Give partners the red carpet VIP treatment and you’ll get that mindshare and most importantly, that walletshare, from them. 
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          When it comes to partner portals, there's this idea that if you build it, they'll come...and that's not really the case. - @Magentrix_PB
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          Does your content for partners have to be any different than what you're developing for your direct sales force? I don't think so. It just has to be easy to consume. - @Magentrix_PB
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          You got to treat partners like they're your most important customer. If you keep giving them that red carpet VIP treatment, you'll find that you'll get mindshare and that wallet share from them. - @Magentrix_PB
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          LINKS & RESOURCES
            • Find Paul on LinkedIn and Twitter
            • Learn more about Magentrix 
            • Check out the special offer for 2 free months of Magentrix
            • The post Paul Bird: Stop Making These 3 Channel Management Mistakes first appeared on Channel Journeys.
              40 min
            • Tony Beller: 10 Tips for Building a SaaS MSP Channel

              Even before Covid, Managed Service Providers (MSPs) have been one of the fastest growing channels for SaaS vendors. New work-from-home mandates have driven the demand for outsourcing to even higher levels. But building a well-functioning Managed Service Provider channel isn’t easy. In this episode, Tony Beller, SVP Worldwide Partner Ecosystems at TIBCO, shares a wealth of experience in building MSP channels that he gained at Saleforce, ServiceNow, and Anaplan.

              KEY TAKEAWAYS

              Here are 10 steps you can take to build and manage a high-peformance SaaS MSP channel:

              1. Find your niche where your technology is going to play; the vertical or sub-vertical industry and market segments your solution will serve.

              2. Think of how you’re going to package and price your solution to sell to the MSPs. Consider creating standardized MSP SKUs because they may use your technology differently than end customers.  

              3. Determine how you will provision your solution to get it into the hands of your MSPs and allow the MSP to manage multiple instances.

              4. Make your solution easy to buy price, easy to buy, and easy to provision. 

              5. Be prepared for your MSPs to white label your solution under their brand. You may want to have their solution labeled with “Powered by” your solution, but large MSPs may not agree to do it.  

              6. Minimize internal channel conflict when you’re building your MSP channel by using a double comp model. On any MSP sale, pay your MSP rep who is managing the MSP and also your sales rep that owns the end customer relationship to drive collaboration.  

              7. If your solution is more of a high price, low volume play, construct your MSP agreement so that you can track the names of the end customers. 

              8. If you want to use deal registration to track MSP opportunities, don’t expect your large MSPs to use your deal registration system. Have your MSP partner manager enter it for them. 

              9. Create an MSP Program with incentives to drive the behavior you are seeking. Be careful of tiered programs based on revenue levels. The large MSPs could buy in bulk and keep your product on the shelf just to reach a higher tier. Make the MSP Program part of your overarching Partner Program. 

              10. Provide discounted, if not free, training. But charge for certifications and make them mandatory for your MSPs to make sure that whatever they’re building on your technology is solid.
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                We created custom MSP pricing SKUs because they used our technology differently than end customers. - @tonybeller
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                Use a double comp model, at least initially, as you get the first MSPs going and get the field used to the MSP channel. - @tonybeller
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                I really believe that training should be something that you give to MSPs at a discounted rate, if not free, but then charge for certifications. - @tonybeller
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                LINKS & RESOURCES
                  • Find Tony on LinkedIn and Twitter
                  • Hear Rob Rae on How To Find, Engage, And Inspire MSPs
                  • Check out the special offer for 2 free months of Magentrix
                  • The post Tony Beller: 10 Tips for Building a SaaS MSP Channel first appeared on Channel Journeys.
                    45 min
                  • Steve Benson: How to Lead Channel Sales in a Crisis

                    Covid-19 has driven an unusual economic crisis. For certain industry and technology sectors, companies are doing as good or better than pre-Covid. But many companies are struggling, including IT vendors. Steve Benson, CEO of Badger Maps and field sales pro, shares how to lead an IT Channel Sales team through this time of economic crisis and remote selling.

                    KEY TAKEAWAYS

                    Here are five things you can do when leading your channel sales team in this crisis:

                    1. If the inability to sell face-to-face is hampering one sales stage, focus on the other stages where you can drive more activity remotely.

                    2. Lean into social media to generate new leads and deepen existing customer and partner relationships.

                    3. A slowdown in sales activity is a great time to sharpen the sword by up-leveling your team’s skills, especially in the area of negotiating and selling value.

                    4. When margins are getting squeezed, look at your sales comp plan. Reps will defend margins a lot better if you align their incentive plan with the profit line instead of with the revenue line.

                    5. An economic downturn when unemployment goes up is a great time to find and hire excellent channel sales talent. 

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                      There are really great and clever tactics that you can use to generate new leads and deepen existing customer relationships by leveraging social media. - @SteveBenson
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                      We need to relearn how we're prospecting and rethink who is our ideal customer and who is a great lead. - @SteveBenson
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                      If revenue is important to an organization, which it always is, your sales channel is one of the last places you should look to make cuts. - @SteveBenson
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                      LINKS & RESOURCES
                        • Find Steve on LinkedIn and Twitter
                        • Learn more about Badger Maps
                        • Listen to the Outside Sales Podcast
                        • The post Steve Benson: How to Lead Channel Sales in a Crisis first appeared on Channel Journeys.
                          39 min
                        • Michelle Hodges: How to Build a Partner Program for a Remote World

                          How do you build a partner program that will succeed in our new remote world? Believe it or not, there are many advantages of working 100% remote, as I learned from Michelle Hodges, VP WW Channels at GitLab. This is a company that has been 100% remote since it was founded. They have written over 5000 pages on how to run a company fully remote. And what they’ve learned about executing quickly and iterating continuously translates directly to how they run their partner program. In this episode, Michelle shares her expert insights on how SaaS vendors can restructure their partner program to succeed in a remote world.

                          KEY TAKEAWAYS

                          Here are the top things I learned from Michelle about building a partner program for the remote age: 

                          1. Document everything. GitLab has an over 5000 page Handbook of how they do business remotely.

                          2. Rather than being constrained by dates, build a partner program that is continuously evolving and improving. And of course, make sure it is meticulously documented. 

                          3. Focus on the strategic objectives of what your company is trying to do, then think about how your partner program can drive that forward behavior.

                          4. Take advantage of the new normal to move faster and be more responsive. With Covid you no longer have those excuses to wait for a physical meeting to get things done.

                          5. Don’t wait for any process to be perfect. Document where you are and give your partners visibility into where you’re headed.

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                            If you've done any research on GitLab, you'll see that we document everything. We have an over 5000 page Handbook of how we do business - @GlobalHodges
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                            Whenever we have a partner webinar and 100 folks on the phone, we have a doc up in zoom that everyone opens and they're adding in questions as we go forward. - @GlobalHodges
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                            We add to our partner program all the time. We don't change the fundamental contractual nature of what we're doing. But we are able to launch quickly and iterate daily. - @GlobalHodges
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                            When I build partner programs, I tend to look at the forward behavior I want to create as opposed to compensating on past activity. - @GlobalHodges
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                            LINKS & RESOURCES
                              • Find Michelle on LinkedIn and Twitter
                              • Download GitLab’s complete Remote Playbook
                              • Check out GitLab’s Channel Partner Handbook
                              • Read Harvard Business Review’s article on GitLab Remote Work Doesn’t Have to Mean All-Day Video Calls
                              • The post Michelle Hodges: How to Build a Partner Program for a Remote World first appeared on Channel Journeys.
                                40 min

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