Did you know that part of the origin of Friday the 13th's bad luck begins with a Pope? In a surprise drop, we are sharing our presentation from Intelligent Speech 2025: Deception on the dissolution of the Knights Templar, and how a pope's deception and complicity caused many deaths, a curse, and a long standing superstition!

This episode is presented as it was live at Intelligent Speech 2025: Deception, with no other edits. This is an annual online conference for independent podcasters and content creators designed to bring creators closer to their listeners! Bry helps run this conference. You can find more out about the conference, and see whats coming for 2026 very soon at https://intelligentspeechonline.com/