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In this conversation, Ashley DeSanno and Emily Reeder discuss the novel 'We Used to Live Here' by Marcus Cleaver, exploring its origins, themes of reality and perception, mental health representation, and the scary elements of the story. They share personal experiences related to fear and reality, and conclude with thoughts on future reads.

takeaways

• The novel began on Reddit and gained popularity quickly.
• The audio book's sound effects enhanced the scary experience.
• Themes of mental health and reality are central to the story.
• The concept of alternate realities is explored in depth.
• Personal experiences with fear can relate to the book's themes.
• The writing style effectively creates a scary atmosphere.
• The discussion highlights the importance of mental health awareness.
• The characters' decisions reflect real-life dilemmas about safety.
• The book's ending leaves readers questioning reality.
• Future reads include 'Dark Matter' by Blake Crouch.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to 'We Used to Live Here'

01:23 The Origins of the Novel and Its Impact

05:15 Exploring Themes of Reality and Perception

09:14 Mental Health and Its Representation in the Story

13:12 The Scary Elements and Writing Style

19:04 Personal Experiences with Fear and Reality

23:52 Conclusion and Future Reads

https://www.ted.com/talks/vs_ramachandran_3_clues_to_understanding_your_brain?language=en

https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/We-Used-to-Live-Here/Marcus-Kliewer/9781982198794

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In this conversation, Ashley DeSanno and Emily Reeder discuss the book 'Count My Lies' by Sophie Stava, exploring its themes of dishonesty, character dynamics, and the flaws within the legal system. They share their initial reactions to the book, analyze the characters Violet and Jay, and reflect on the implications of lying and the justice system. The discussion also touches on the anticipation of the book's adaptation into a series, highlighting the storytelling techniques used by the author.

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Takeaways

• The book starts with a focus on lying, which can be off-putting initially.
• The introduction of multiple perspectives adds depth to the story.
• Violet's character is complex; she is both bad and relatable.
• The legal system's flaws are highlighted through the narrative.
• Dishonesty can have long-lasting effects on relationships and trust.
• The conversation reflects on the societal implications of plea deals.
• The characters are not entirely likable, yet their stories are engaging.
• The anticipation for the book's adaptation is high among readers.
• The discussion emphasizes the importance of honesty in personal relationships.
• The conversation showcases the hosts' chemistry and humor throughout the analysis.

Chapters

00:00
Introduction and Light Banter

01:46
Book Discussion: Count My Lies

07:58
Character Analysis and Plot Twists

12:03
Themes of Deception and Morality

17:04
Concluding Thoughts and Future Adaptations

17:41
Dark Humor and Domestic Struggles

19:56
Plea Deals and the Justice System

23:36
False Confessions and Systemic Issues

25:37
The Flaws in the Legal System

30:20
The Emotional Toll of Legal Work

32:34
The Importance of Honesty

34:42
Forensic Realities in Fiction

36:41
Sisterhood and Identity in Relationships

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In this conversation, Ashley DeSanno and Emily Reeder discuss Heather Gudenkauf's book 'Everyone Is Watching,' exploring its dark themes, the impact of reality TV on personal secrets, and the implications of parasocial relationships. They delve into the moral dilemmas faced by characters in the book, the corruption of power, and the consequences of manipulation and bullying. The discussion highlights the complexities of human behavior in the pursuit of wealth and fame, ultimately reflecting on the societal issues presented in the narrative.

00:00 Character Analysis and Themes

05:37 Reality TV and Its Impact

13:30 Power Dynamics in Media

19:21 Personal Reflections and Relatability

23:43 Conclusion and Recommendations

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In this conversation, Emily and Ashley delve into personal reflections on their experiences with religion, the impact of shame within religious contexts, and the importance of fostering strong character over strict adherence to rules.

• The discussion touches on the dangers of extremist ideologies and the need for preparedness.
• Emily shares her personal journey away from Christianity and the impact of shame in religious contexts.
• Ashley reflects on her upbringing in a liberal church and her current agnostic beliefs.
• The conversation critiques the judgmental nature of some religious communities.
• Emily recounts a personal tragedy that shaped her views on religion and empathy.
• The discussion concludes with a shared disdain for the shame-based teachings often found in religious contexts.

Chapters

00:00Gas Meter Dilemma

06:30The Accelerationists and Societal Change

13:41Reflections on Religion and Identity

19:15The Impact of Personal Loss on Belief Systems

22:22Questioning Religious Judgments and Beliefs

24:27Shame and Judgment in Religious Communities

27:49The Consequences of Shame-Based Teachings

31:05The Dangers of Inauthentic Living

34:08Cherry-Picking Religious Texts

38:59Distinguishing Religion from Its Followers

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Emily is back from Europe and Ashley's oldest is dating. Catch up with us in this fun, fast, furious and hilarious episode. We hope you will share your travel horror stories with us in the comments.

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FULL spoiler episode with Ashley Winstead on her most recent book - This Book Will Bury Me. We also chat grief after losing our fathers, true crime obsession and Bryan Kohbergers choice to plea. 

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Meet one of our 2026 Retreat authors. This episode has FULL spoilers for Jill is not Happy, her most recent novel.

Kaira Rouda is a USA Today and Amazon Charts bestselling author known for her gripping psychological thrillers that explore the dark complexities behind seemingly perfect lives. With a background in marketing and a passion for storytelling, Rouda has carved a niche for herself in domestic suspense, delivering twist-filled narratives that keep readers on the edge of their seats. Her novels—including Best Day Ever, The Favorite Daughter, and Somebody’s Home—have been praised for their chilling portrayals of deceit, ambition, and unraveling family dynamics. Before turning to fiction full time, Rouda was an award-winning entrepreneur and magazine publisher, experiences that often inform the layered, high-stakes worlds she creates. A strong advocate for women’s empowerment, Kaira lives with her family in Southern California

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We encourage you to head to Patreon to hear our entire episode on Daniel Marsh 

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In this episode of 'Books with Your Besties', hosts Ashley DeSanno and Emily Reeder delve into the tragic case of Tamla Horsford, a mother of five whose death at a slumber party in Georgia has raised numerous questions and sparked national outrage. The conversation explores the details surrounding the night of her death, the investigation that followed, and the various theories that have emerged.

With a focus on the racial context of the case and the integrity of the investigation, the hosts aim to uncover the truth behind Tamla's untimely demise, highlighting the complexities and unanswered questions that remain. They analyze the investigation's shortcomings, the evidence presented, and the societal context surrounding the case, ultimately questioning the integrity of the investigation and the treatment of Tamla as a victim.

TW: Death, Suicide, Bodily Harm, 

Show Notes:

00:00 Introduction to Tamla Horsford's Case

02:59 The Night of the Incident

05:54 Tamla's Background and Context

09:11The Investigation Begins

12:07 911 Call Analysis

14:59 Injuries and Autopsy Findings

17:53 Questions About the Investigation

20:53 The Role of Key Individuals

24:11 Conclusions and Ongoing Questions

36:23 Unraveling the Mystery of Jose Barrera

39:10 Investigating the Detective's Role

40:37 The Controversial Lawsuit and Accusations

41:57 Racial Dynamics and Historical Context

43:05 Analyzing Key Evidence

49:10 The Role of Xanax and Other Substances

52:10 The Lack of Blood and Its Implications

53:54 Forsyth County's Troubling History

01:00:07 Theories and Speculations on Tamla's Death

Links:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Tamla_Horsford

https://truercrimepodcast.com/tamla-horsford/

https://crimejunkiepodcast.com/mysterious-death-tamla-horsford-joseph-smedley/

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/tamla-horsford-death-georgia-bureau-investigation-report-1231479/

https://www.forsythnews.com/news/crime-courts/tragic-accident-gbi-concludes-investigation-tamla-horsfords-death/

https://people.com/crime/tamla-horsford-death-mom-party-accidental-family-suspicious/

https://www.11alive.com/gallery/news/uploaded-gallery/85-8e3e5f76-cfe6-4ccd-bd28-8ecee3a8564b

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