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In this episode, I chat to Tom Bird. Tom has been in the metal recycling industry for pretty much all his life, starting in the family business while still in school. 

Up until a few months ago, he was President of the BIR and he's held many senior roles in the industry, including Managing Director at Sims. He has recently started a new metal recycling venture, Enicor.

In this episode we chat about:

• When the markets start to go, there’s no point in messing around
• You can’t punch somebody at the bottom of a ruck anymore
• Forcing people into corners isn’t going to work
• If you don’t buy it right, you’ve got a problem
• Don’t assume anything – do your homework
• Fridge Mountain and Car Everest
• And much more!

WHO IS STU KAGAN ANYWAYS?

25 years in the metal recycling game and still learning and growing…

I learnt from the best and worked my way up from yard labourer to Executive Director of Trading and Operations for the largest metal recycler in sub-Saharan Africa. Responsible for 4,500 employees, 85 sites, and the overall profitability of a multi-billion dollar operation.

Brought my breadth and depth of knowledge to bear and co-founded the fastest growing, most-loved, and most awarded metal recycling company in New Zealand. No small feat in a country where people are outnumbered 4:1 by sheep (spoiler alert: sheep don’t produce much metal waste). 

Father of two crazy-awesome boys. Husband to Lisa. Under 8 rugby coach. YPO member. Lifelong learner. Mentee. Mentor. Chief dog walker. Committed Stoic. Undefeated dance-off champion.

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In this episode, I chat to Jurgen Van Gorp. Jurgen has 23 years experience in metal recycling and currently holds the position of portfolio manger of raw materials for Aurubis Group. 

He’s also a member of the Non-Ferrous Board of the BIR and is an active speaker and panelist at various recycling conferences globally.

In this episode we chat about:

• When to walk away from a short term gain
• The inaugural Born Scrappy boxing bout
• Advice that has stuck for 23 years
• The times they are a-changin’
• You have to work for it
• And much more!


WHO IS STU KAGAN ANYWAYS?

25 years in the metal recycling game and still learning and growing…

I learnt from the best and worked my way up from yard labourer to Executive Director of Trading and Operations for the largest metal recycler in sub-Saharan Africa. Responsible for 4,500 employees, 85 sites, and the overall profitability of a multi-billion dollar operation.

Brought my breadth and depth of knowledge to bear and co-founded the fastest growing, most-loved, and most awarded metal recycling company in New Zealand. No small feat in a country where people are outnumbered 4:1 by sheep (spoiler alert: sheep don’t produce much metal waste). 

Father of two crazy-awesome boys. Husband to Lisa. Under 8 rugby coach. YPO member. Lifelong learner. Mentee. Mentor. Chief dog walker. Committed Stoic. Undefeated dance-off champion.


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In this episode, I chat to Michael Lion. Michael has been in the metal recycling industry for 55 years. 

He pioneered scrap metal into both China and Korea.

He was chairman of Sims Metal Management Asia and their head of global Non Ferrous.

He is currently Chairman of BIR's international trade council and is the host of its topical show "The Challenge".

In this episode we discuss:

- Optimising your trading strategy
- Becoming a preferred supplier
- Making value judgements
- Pioneering new markets
- Deal plot twists
- And plenty more...

WHO IS STU KAGAN ANYWAYS?

25 years in the metal recycling game and still learning and growing…

I learnt from the best and worked my way up from yard labourer to Executive Director of Trading and Operati ons for the largest metal recycler in sub-Saharan Africa. Responsible for 4,500 employees, 85 sites, and the overall profitability of a multi-billion dollar operation.

Brought my breadth and depth of knowledge to bear and co-founded the fastest growing, most-loved, and most awarded metal recycling company in New Zealand. No small feat in a country where people are outnumbered 4:1 by sheep (spoiler alert: sheep don’t produce much metal waste). 

Father of two crazy-awesome boys. Husband to Lisa. Under 8 rugby coach. YPO member. Lifelong learner. Mentee. Mentor. Chief dog walker. Committed Stoic. Undefeated dance-off champion.

COME SAY HI ON LINKEDIN

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In this episode, I chat to Mark Sellier. Mark has been Head of International Trade for One Steel, Founder and President of GMN and has chaired different divisions in the BIR.

In this episode we discuss:

- If you beat everyone up, you'll have no one to play with.
- Why only your friends can tell you that you smell.
- How to become a preferred supplier.
- How to average out your material.
- Dealing with small margins.
- And plenty more...

WHO IS STU KAGAN ANYWAYS?

25 years in the metal recycling game and still learning and growing…

I learnt from the best and worked my way up from yard labourer to Executive Director of Trading and Operati ons for the largest metal recycler in sub-Saharan Africa. Responsible for 4,500 employees, 85 sites, and the overall profitability of a multi-billion dollar operation.

Brought my breadth and depth of knowledge to bear and co-founded the fastest growing, most-loved, and most awarded metal recycling company in New Zealand. No small feat in a country where people are outnumbered 4:1 by sheep (spoiler alert: sheep don’t produce much metal waste). 

Father of two crazy-awesome boys. Husband to Lisa. Under 8 rugby coach. YPO member. Lifelong learner. Mentee. Mentor. Chief dog walker. Committed Stoic. Undefeated dance-off champion.

COME SAY HI ON LINKEDIN

https://www.linkedin.com/in/stukagan/

#scrapmetal #metalrecycling #scrapexporter

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In this episode, I chat to Murat Bayram.

He has his master's degree in finance and he leads the non-ferrous business at industry giant EMR. 

He is one of the most passionate people I've met in the metal recycling world!

In this episode we chat about:

- The role of reliability in turbulent times
- How to maximize your sales price
- That time we learnt nothing
- To hedge or not to hedge
- Trust and relationships
- And much more!

WHO IS STU KAGAN ANYWAYS?

25 years in the metal recycling game and still learning and growing…

I learnt from the best and worked my way up from yard laborer to Executive Director of Trading and Operations for the largest metal recycler in sub-Saharan Africa. Responsible for 4,500 employees, 85 sites, and the overall profitability of a multi-billion dollar operation.

Brought my breadth and depth of knowledge to bear and co-founded the fastest growing, most-loved, and most awarded metal recycling company in New Zealand. No small feat in a country where people are outnumbered 4:1 by sheep (spoiler alert: sheep don’t produce much metal waste). 

Father of two crazy-awesome boys. Husband to Lisa. Under 8 rugby coach. YPO member. Lifelong learner. Mentee. Mentor. Chief dog walker. Committed Stoic. Undefeated dance-off champion.

COME SAY HI ON LINKEDIN

https://www.linkedin.com/in/stukagan/

#scrapmetal #metalrecycling #scrapexporter