“People should go push to liberate themselves. What do they want to do more of?”

Break Fake Rules is a podcast from the Stupski Foundation that questions philanthropy’s self-imposed rules and looks for ways philanthropy can better serve communities and contribute to lasting change. 

Glen talks with Sarah Longwell, president and CEO of Longwell Partners, founder of The Bulwark, and host of The Focus Group podcast. In this episode, they discuss her decision to fight against Trump as a Republican and the need for the nation to build strong coalitions to restore Americans’ trust in our institutions and each other.

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Host: Glen Galaich

Guest: Sarah Longwell

Producer: Claire Callahan