Dr. David Hawkins joins me to unpack one of the ugliest elephants in the sanctuary — emotionally immature and narcissistic men hiding behind faith and authority. We talk control masked as leadership, the psychology of “hopium,” and why so many Christian marriages quietly collapse under spiritual manipulation. This isn’t church-bashing — it’s truth-telling for men who actually want to grow up, take responsibility, and love their wives like Christ, not a dictator.

We get practical—why accepting influence matters, why “sorry” without change is empty, what real interventions look like, and how to do the work. It’s blunt, faith-aware, and unflinching—but aimed at healing, not shaming. Enjoy-Kyle

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*🎙 About The Show*

Kyle Van Ruitenburg gets Furiously Curious with honest, raw, and sometimes laugh-out-loud chats about the stories, beliefs, and worldviews that shape how people see the world.

From Business and Faith to Life and everything in between, no topic is off the table.

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Thanks for watching, and God bless.

The Briefcase & The Barn is hosted by two Dutch Reformed misfits who’ve spent most of their lives in the church’s side-eye.

Kyle Van Ruitenburg is the PK and connections guy who’s been around the world (and yes—straight off the boat). Gary Baars is the money guy who’s been around just about every farm and cow.

Together, they have blunt, funny, real talk about business, life, faith, culture, and the stuff Christians usually don't talk about.

Recorded on the west coast of Canada in Chilliwack, BC.

New episodes every Wednesday at 5 am PST.

Created & produced by *The Furiously Curious Company.*

#ToGodBeTheGlory

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The Briefcase & The Barn is hosted by two Dutch Reformed misfits who’ve spent most of their lives in the church’s side-eye.

Kyle Van Ruitenburg is the PK and connections guy who’s been around the world (and yes—straight off the boat). Gary Baars is the money guy who’s been around just about every farm and cow.

Together, they have blunt, funny, real talk about business, life, faith, culture, and the stuff Christians usually don't talk about.

Recorded on the west coast of Canada in Chilliwack, BC.

New episodes every Wednesday at 5 am PST.

Created & produced by *The Furiously Curious Company.*

#ToGodBeTheGlory

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🤝 *support the show here *👇

www.furiouslycurious.co/donate

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📞 *Interested in Kyle's Coaching, Recruiting, or Employment Opportunities?*

Text Kyle: 1-604-703-9045

Email: [email protected]

Website: https://www.furiouslycurious.co

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Gary’s out this week, so I sat down with Mike from ARPA Canada to talk real life: why a good friend sometimes tells you not to add another hobby, how to actually find mentors, what servant leadership looks like in the church, and how a grueling Terry Fox ride turned grief into grit—and reminded us to lead from within, starting at home.

We also touch the hot stuff—free speech, MAiD, civil courage—not as rage-bait, but as dads and Christians who want to stand firm, love well, and keep our priorities straight.

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The Briefcase & The Barn is hosted by two Dutch Reformed misfits who’ve spent most of their lives in the church’s side-eye.

Kyle Van Ruitenburg is the PK and connections guy who’s been around the world (and yes—straight off the boat). Gary Baars is the money guy who’s been around just about every farm and cow.

Together, they have blunt, funny, real talk about business, life, faith, culture, and the stuff Christians usually don't talk about.

Recorded on the west coast of Canada in Chilliwack, BC.

New episodes every Wednesday at 5 am PST.

Created & produced by *The Furiously Curious Company.*

#ToGodBeTheGlory

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🤝 *support the show here *👇

www.furiouslycurious.co/donate

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📞 *Interested in Kyle's Coaching, Recruiting, or Employment Opportunities?*

Text Kyle: 1-604-703-9045

Email: [email protected]

Website: https://www.furiouslycurious.co

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*Got questions or feedback?*

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⏱️ Podcast Chapters:

0:00 Calling Out Friends

7:40 State of Culture in Canada

12:25 Trusted News Outlets

13:50 Terry Fox Bike Ride

24:55 Bad Church Leaders

31:30 Persecution Incoming?

In this week's episode, we cover strikes and unions, AI hype vs. human souls, why weakness is a feature in the Christian life, adoption and foster care, and why eloping often beats blowing 20K on one day! 

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The Briefcase & The Barn is hosted by two Dutch Reformed misfits who’ve spent most of their lives in the church’s side-eye.

Kyle Van Ruitenburg is the PK and connections guy who’s been around the world (and yes—straight off the boat). Gary Baars is the money guy who’s been around just about every farm and cow.

Together, they have blunt, funny, real talk about business, life, faith, culture, and the stuff Christians usually don't talk about.

Recorded on the west coast of Canada in Chilliwack, BC.

New episodes every Wednesday at 5 am PST.

Created & produced by *The Furiously Curious Company.*

#ToGodBeTheGlory

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🤝 *support the show here *👇

www.furiouslycurious.co/donate

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📞 *Interested in Kyle's Coaching, Recruiting, or Employment Opportunities?*

Text Kyle: 1-604-703-9045

Email: [email protected]

Website: https://www.furiouslycurious.co

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*Social Media:*

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*Got questions or feedback?*

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⏱️ Podcast Chapters:

0:00 Intro

3:17 Strikes, Unions & AI

11:32 Needy People

21:27 Should we all adopt?

27:17 Design Build Role

30:22 Wedding Day Problems

36:32 Comply or Fight?

This week’s episode is a bit of a mix — from communion and hyper-Calvinism to a murder mystery night and a mechanical bull.

Gary and I talk faith, feedback, and a few laughs along the way. Honest, raw, and very “barn meets briefcase.”

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The Briefcase & The Barn is hosted by two Dutch Reformed misfits who’ve spent most of their lives in the church’s side-eye.

Kyle Van Ruitenburg is the PK and connections guy who’s been around the world (and yes—straight off the boat). Gary Baars is the money guy who’s been around just about every farm and cow.

Together, they have blunt, funny, real talk about business, life, faith, culture, and the stuff Christians usually don't talk about.

Recorded on the west coast of Canada in Chilliwack, BC.

New episodes every Wednesday at 5 am PST.

Created & produced by *The Furiously Curious Company.*

#ToGodBeTheGlory

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🤝 *support the show here *👇

www.furiouslycurious.co/donate

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📞 *Interested in Kyle's Coaching, Recruiting, or Employment Opportunities?*

Text Kyle: 1-604-703-9045

Email: [email protected]

Website: https://www.furiouslycurious.co

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*Social Media:*

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https://www.instagram.com/furiouslycuriousco/

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*Got questions or feedback?*

Email Kyle at [email protected]

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⏱️ Podcast Chapters:

0:49 Mix Mash

8:40 The Lord's Supper / Communion

15:00 Murder Mystery Night

19:55 Hyper Calvinism Book

28:00 Feedback & The Mechanical Bull

This week on The Briefcase & The Barn, Gary and I wander from tractors to tithes, why isolation is the devil’s best friend. Plus, some barn banter and real talk on what sacrificial giving looks like when you’re running a business and raising a family.

Rick Warren, Francis Chan, and Randy Alcorn all make cameo appearances in the conversation, just not literally ;)

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The Briefcase & The Barn is hosted by two Dutch Reformed misfits who’ve spent most of their lives in the church’s side-eye.

Kyle Van Ruitenburg is the PK and connections guy who’s been around the world (and yes—straight off the boat). Gary Baars is the money guy who’s been around just about every farm and cow.

Together, they have blunt, funny, real talk about business, life, faith, culture, and the stuff Christians usually don't talk about.

Recorded on the west coast of Canada in Chilliwack, BC.

New episodes every Wednesday at 5 am PST.

Created & produced by *The Furiously Curious Company.*

#ToGodBeTheGlory

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🤝 *support the show here *👇

www.furiouslycurious.co/donate

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📞 *Interested in Kyle's Coaching, Recruiting, or Employment Opportunities?*

Text Kyle: 1-604-703-9045

Email: [email protected]

Website: https://www.furiouslycurious.co

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*Social Media:*

https://www.facebook.com/FuriouslyCuriousShow

https://www.instagram.com/furiouslycuriousco/

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*Got questions or feedback?*

Email Kyle at [email protected]

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*⏱️ Podcast Chapters:*

0:00 Full Mouth & Big Nose

4:40 Rich in Mercy

10:50 Kids in Sports

11:52 Marketing & Job Opening

16:05 Common Denominator of the Struggling

21:05 Real Estate Collapse?

24:25 Women's Weight / Podcast Feedback

29:00 Value VS Profit

40:30 Tray's Coaching

This week, Gary and I crack open two things we all wrestle with: finding a church you can actually breathe in and forgiveness that doesn’t turn you into a doormat.

We also cover interest rates and the “Messiah complex” that gets us in trouble when we think we can fix people.

*Don't forget to grab your tickets to my Live Event!* *Live Event Tickets:* https://www.eventbrite.com/e/leadership-life-lessons-with-colonel-tray-ardese-tickets-1680267618679?aff=oddtdtcreator

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The Briefcase & The Barn is hosted by two Dutch Reformed misfits who’ve spent most of their lives in the church’s side-eye.

Kyle Van Ruitenburg is the PK and connections guy who’s been around the world (and yes—straight off the boat). Gary Baars is the money guy who’s been around just about every farm and cow.

Together, they have blunt, funny, real talk about business, life, faith, culture, and the stuff Christians usually don't talk about.

Recorded on the west coast of Canada in Chilliwack, BC.

New episodes every Wednesday at 5 am PST.

Created & produced by *The Furiously Curious Company.*

#ToGodBeTheGlory

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🤝 *support the show here *👇

www.furiouslycurious.co/donate

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📞 *Interested in Kyle's Coaching, Recruiting, or Employment Opportunities?*

Text Kyle: 1-604-703-9045

Email: [email protected]

Website: https://www.furiouslycurious.co

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*Social Media:*

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https://www.instagram.com/furiouslycuriousco/

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*Got questions or feedback?*

Email Kyle at [email protected]

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*⏱️ Podcast Chapters:*

1:07 Kickoff & Live Event

4:53 God’s Yearning Bowels?

13:03 Life Changing Forgiveness

20:28 Luther & The Bible

27:53 Money Talk: Rate Cuts Explained

31:43 Picking a Church

37:43 Messiah Complex

*Live Event Tickets:* https://www.eventbrite.com/e/leadership-life-lessons-with-colonel-tray-ardese-tickets-1680267618679?aff=oddtdtcreator

This week, Gary and I covered a lot—9/11 memories, Charlie Kirk’s murder, and where Christian hope fits when the world feels upside down. We dug into foreign workers, hiring expectations, the so-called “housing crisis,” and whether parents should kick their adult kids out. Faith, family, and real talk—nothing off limits.

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The Briefcase & The Barn is hosted by two Dutch Reformed misfits who’ve spent most of their lives in the church’s side-eye.

Kyle Van Ruitenburg is the PK and connections guy who’s been around the world (and yes—straight off the boat). Gary Baars is the money guy who’s been around just about every farm and cow.

Together, they have blunt, funny, real talk about business, life, faith, culture, and the stuff Christians usually don't talk about.

Recorded on the west coast of Canada in Chilliwack, BC.

New episodes every Wednesday at 5 am PST.

Created & produced by *The Furiously Curious Company.*

#ToGodBeTheGlory

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🤝 *support the show here *👇

www.furiouslycurious.co/donate

---

📞 *Interested in Kyle's Coaching, Recruiting, or Employment Opportunities?*

Text Kyle: 1-604-703-9045

Email: [email protected]

Website: https://www.furiouslycurious.co

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*Social Media:*

https://www.facebook.com/FuriouslyCuriousShow

https://www.instagram.com/furiouslycuriousco/

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*Got questions or feedback?*

Email Kyle at [email protected]

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*⏱️ Podcast Chapters:*

0:00 9/11 Memories & Lessons

4:30 Charlie Kirk & Christian Hope

13:50 Foreign Workers & Unemployment

25:20 Kick Adult Kids Out?

30:50 Gen Z & the “Housing Crisis”

38:53 41:30 Live Podcast Event!

*Live Event Tickets:* https://www.eventbrite.com/e/leadership-life-lessons-with-colonel-tray-ardese-tickets-1680267618679?aff=oddtdtcreator

Date: Saturday, Sep 27, 2025

Time: 7:00 PM - 9:30 PM PDT. 

Location: Central Community Church - Chilliwack Campus

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What makes a true leader? How do you stay grounded when life feels like a battle of its own?

On September 27th, join Colonel Tray Ardese (Ret.) — former U.S. Marine F/A-18 pilot, Special Forces leader, and decorated Colonel—together with Kyle Van Ruitenburg, coach and host of The Furiously Curious Show, for an evening of real talk on leadership and life.

Through stories of combat, courage, and faith, you’ll walk away with insights on:

- Leading with courage under pressure

- Building resilience in the face of adversity

- Living with clarity and purpose in family, business, and community

- How faith shapes decision-making when everything is on the line

This is more than a conversation—it’s an opportunity to reflect, ask questions, and apply the lessons to your own journey.