Brown & Black

Brown & Black

By Jack Rico, Mike SargentTV & FilmSociety & Culture
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Brown & Black episodes

  • Can Brown & Black Art Survive AI? OpenAI, Studio Ghibli & the Fight for Creative Ownership

    If AI can make human-like art, do we still need the artist?

    In this episode we unpack the OpenAI's 'Image Editor' and the Studio Ghibli AI trend, and discuss the cultural, economic, and existential implications AI poses to Black and Latino artists.

    Episode Summary:

    AI Art: Speed & Quality Enjoying vs. Fearing AI Art Copyright Crisis Is the Artist's Career in Peril? Audience Over Artists? Art vs. Commerce Struggle Inflection Point The Japanese Copyright Law Loophole Prompt Engineers Replacing Artists? Redefining "Artist" Cultural Gatekeepers Adapt or Resist? Defining the Artist The Capitalist Framework Protecting Brown & Black Artists Devaluation Through Imitation Valuing Artists, Protecting IP, Reforming Laws Subscribe and listen to 'Brown & Black': 🎧 Spotify: https://spoti.fi/47JgORF Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/32hShVT

    33 min
  • Mark Anthony Green on His A24 Directorial Debut "Opus"

    In Opus, Ayo Edebiri plays a journalist invited into a world of celebrity power, but is she there to observe, or be consumed by it?

    This week on Brown & Black, journalist and filmmaker Mark Anthony Green joins us to unpack his A24 directorial debut, Opus. We dissect the film's underlying themes, including the seductive power of validation, the blurred lines between journalism and celebrity, and how Black horror and comedy can expose the darker truths of our human condition.

    Episode Summary

    • Mark Anthony Green reveals journey from GQ journalist to filmmaker
    • The reality of being "in the room" vs. having creative control
    • Behind-the-scenes stories of working with Nile Rodgers, and George Clinton
    • Crafting intelligent, complex Black characters
    • Are we in an entertainment journalism crisis?
    • How "Get Out" changed horror filmmaking for Black directors
    • Why Opus connects differently with Black viewers
    • The six-year journey of bringing "Opus" to the screen.
    • Why Mark Anthony Green considers audience discussions "the sequel" to his film.

    #MarkAnthonyGreen #Opus #A24 #AyoAdebiri #BlackFilmmakers #BrownBlackPodcast

    35 min
  • Trump and the Whitewashing of Brown & Black Culture

    Is Donald Trump's Kennedy Center takeover the start of a cultural whitewash?

    This week on 'Brown & Black,' we examine what happens when the most powerful man in America seizes control of the nation's most prestigious cultural institution.

    The President's takeover of the Kennedy Center has sparked fears of a whitewashing of African-American and Latino culture. From shrinking opportunities for artists of color to the threat against Spanish-language media, are we witnessing the beginning of state-run art in America?

    Episode Summary:

    • Discussing the definition of "white culture" and its relationship to power
    • Discussion of Trump's unprecedented control of the Kennedy Center
    • Analysis of the dismissal of 18 board members and the cultural implications
    • Debate on American culture as fundamentally rooted in Black culture
    • Exploration of the potential future of Spanish language in mainstream media
    • Examination of the potential impact on BET, Univision and Telemundo
    • Discussion of how artists today might respond to cultural oppression
    • A plea to listeners to resist cultural erasure

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    26 min
  • Make America White Again

    How do you make a America whiter without saying you're making it whiter?

    In this first episode of 2025, during Black History Month, we dissect what does Trump's dismatling of DEI and the self-sabotaging deportation crusade, mean or businesses and media?And how much damage will be done to Blacks and Latinos before they get their way?

    Then we discuss why the backlash to the 13-time Oscar-nominated Netflix musical "Emilia Perez" isn't about "foreigners stealing Latino stories." It's about the power to define, represent, and shape how a culture is perceived. Whoever controls the story, controls the power. We break down why "Emilia Perez" has ignited a battle for the soul of cultural storytelling.

    Episode Summary

    The Trump administration's full-scale attack on DEI

    Why companies like Target & McDonald's are retreating from diversity

    Can capitalism survive without Latino and Black labor?

    The history of Mexican deportation: Why 1929 is repeating itself today

    The dystopian reality of race in America

    The impact of anti-DEI laws on education, media, and business

    The Supreme Court's role in dismantling civil rights

    Is DEI really gone, or is it evolving?

    What's the future of racial progress in America?

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    35 min
  • A Brown & Black Thanksgiving: Our TV & Movie Picks

    In this special Thanksgiving episode, we're sharing some of our favorite movies and TV shows we're currently watching or bingeing. Hopefully, you'll find something to add to your Thanksgiving watchlist.

    From Black documentaries on 70s cinema and military-style action TV shows to a surreal film tackling female ageism, we've included a mix of Latino, Black, and mainstream selections that we enjoyed. We think that after watching these, you'll have a lot to talk about over the holidays.

    Episode Summary:

    (00:00) - The power of movie escapism

    (05:15) - Lioness: Military-style action with Zoe Saldana

    (09:30) - The Piano Lesson: Black legacy meets supernatural themes

    (14:00) - Pedro Páramo: Family and redemption through a Mexican lens

    (16:45) - Is That Black Enough for You?: 70s Black cinema documentary

    (20:00) - Blitz: WWII drama spotlighting resilience and untold stories

    (23:30) - The Substance: A surreal exploration of female ageism

    (30:00) - Captain America: Brave New World: Diversity in the Marvel universe

    (30:30) - Emilia Pérez: A transformative Latino musical

    (34:00) - Gladiator 2: Representation in historical epics

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    29 min
  • The Color of Aspiration: Are Latinos The Next Whites?

    It's November 7, 2024. Latinos are clearly becoming the next 'whites' and represent what the Republican Party may look like in the future. This episode promises to challenge everything you thought you knew about Latino identity in the U.S.

    Back in April 2024, we spoke to Political Psychologist Efren Perez, a UCLA Professor of Political Science and Psychology, who holds a PhD from Duke University, about his research on what are the true psychological and political factors that are driving many Latinos to "whiteness." Is it a survival mechanism or is it status-seeking? What are the long-term implications of this negotiation of identity and the Census?

    Episode Summary:

    • Perez on his recent Newsweek article and the concept of "ideological whiteness."

    • Exploring Latino identity and the political landscape.

    • Impact of personality traits on political ideology among Latinos.

    • Latino Republicans and their alignment with conservative ideologies.

    • Discussion on how historical shifts have redefined racial categories.

    • Potential future of Latino identity and politics in the U.S.

    Key Quotes: ❞

    "We've been talking about Latinos and African Americans and other groups as if they sort of naturally belong together. They don't." - Efren Perez

    "The main point is that the category of white has expanded and narrowed across the centuries. And we are living in a moment, awash in data where we can show you that it's going through expansion right now." - Efren Perez

    "Quit focusing on the outliers and focus your energy on organizing, mobilizing the two-thirds that are already convinced, but don't have the time to vote, don't have the time or resources to make their perspective felt." - Efren Perez

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    54 min
  • Harvey Mason Jr., Grammy CEO on AI and the Future of Music

    What does responsible AI use look like in the music world?

    This week, we sit down with Grammy CEO Harvey Mason Jr., the man at the helm of one of music's most revered institutions, to discuss AI's current and future impact on the music industry - especially for creators of color - and how the Recording Academy is confronting this challenge head-on. Harvey reveals what's at stake: artist rights, the moral challenges AI presents, and how the Grammys are preparing for the inevitable surge of AI-generated music.

    If you're in the music industry, a fan of pop culture, or following the AI disruption drama, this eye-opening conversation will make you rethink the future of music and creativity in the digital age.

    Episode Summary:

    0:00 - The growing impact of AI on the music industry explained

    1:40 - Exploring whether AI is a creative tool or disruptor in music

    3:30 - Discussing AI's role in the process of music creation

    6:20 - The ethical use of AI is needed to protect human creativity

    9:15 - How AI increases corporate profits but can harm artists

    12:00 - Examining AI's potential benefits for music industry revenue

    14:45 - Questioning whether AI will ever have its own Grammy category

    17:30 - The Grammys' stance: no awards for AI-generated music

    20:40 - Expanding access to music education for creators of color

    24:15 - The Grammys use AI detection to protect artist rights

    26:50 - Redefining what defines talent in an AI-driven music world

    30:10 - Balancing AI innovation with human connection in music

    32:45 - A preview of the 2025 Grammy nominations: diversity and creativity

    Sources:

    Recording Academy: https://www.recordingacademy.com/press-room/executives

    Will. I. Am. FYI app: https://will.i.am/

    Harvey Mason Jr. Quotes:

    "The AI songs right now are generating a hundred songs per second. ... No one can tell me that AI is going to make Songs in the Key of Life or Nevermind, or Illmatic."

    "But as it relates to the academy right now, we don't reward or award AI in our process. So if you're AI vocal, you're not eligible for performance."

    "AI is happening. There's no going back. ... Let's make sure that it's done responsibly, ethically, maybe even morally."

    "If you're Bad Bunny ... but if you're the purist who wants to have complete control over their voice ... then they should be able to do that as well."

    "I do believe in the power of human creativity...but without some real advocating and without legislation... we would have the danger in my mind that we could slip into a place where we're just listening to generated AI music."

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    42 min
  • 40 Acres Lie Revealed: Is Reparations Near?

    Land, land, land. What if your ancestors kept the land they were promised? How would your life be different?

    In this episode, we speak with Mother Jones Editorial Director, Jamilah King, about a story meant to be hidden in the annals of history. She and her investigative team used AI to unearth evidence that could force the nation into a reckoning with reparations and finally confront its buried truths.

    Episode Summary:

    3:15 - Explosive findings from '40 Acres and a Lie' impacting African American descendants

    12:45 - Jamila King on AI's role in revealing hidden Freedman's Bureau documents

    18:20 - How this story reshapes reparations and America's broken promises

    25:30 - Black and Mexican land losses post-Civil War and unjust government land grabs

    37:00 - Storytelling, media literacy, and empowering the next generation for justice

    45:15 - Reparations and the legal challenges ahead

    Source:

    Mother Jones article

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/06/40-acres-and-a-lie/

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    48 min
  • Regina Porter on Class, Privilege, and 'Rich People Gone Away'

    What happens when a pandemic exposes the realities that wealth and privilege usually hide?

    Author Regina Porter stops by our show to discuss her provocative new novel, "The Rich People Have Gone Away," a title that says it all. It's a book with sharp social commentary where characters are forced to confront their own moral complexities about privilege, race, and class, set against the backdrop of COVID-19 in New York City in 2020.

    Porter also reveals how she builds complex characters, as well her curiousity to examine themes of personal value versus wealth. Hopefully, this episode can give you a deeper understanding of how literature, in particular this book, can help us process collective trauma and find our place in a time of crisis.

    Episode Summary:

    (2:15) - From Southern roots to New York stories: Porter's unique writing journey

    (7:30) - Exploring race and privilege through white-presenting character Theo Harper

    (14:45) - How Regina Porter brings time periods and characters to life

    (20:30) - Cardi B's t-shirt: Pop culture's role in Porter's character development

    (23:45) - Diversity in publishing: Porter shares industry trends for writers of color

    (27:15) - WPorter's advice for aspiring diverse writers

    Regina Porter Quotes:

    "It's heartbreaking these stories. There's a reason why... we see these stories and people are not able to coexist with their wealth and their worthiness."

    "Maybe my job is to pave the road for the next great writer and then my work might be rediscovered, you know, later."

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    45 min
  • The "La Bamba" Remake: Latino Identity vs. Hollywood

    With the recent announcement of WB's "La Bamba" remake, we ask: Did Hollywood whitewash Luis Valdez's 1987 film classic, and will the remake do better? And how much of your identity would you sacrifice to be seen by mainstream media?

    In this raw and unfiltered episode of Brown & Black, we use the announcement of the "La Bamba" remake to discuss identity, assimilation, and the paradox of Latino representation in mainstream media.

    Episode Summary: 📝

    • Revisiting La Bamba in 2024
    • Ritchie Valens' Latino identity: Authenticity vs. Acceptance
    • The upcoming La Bamba remake: Challenges and opportunities
    • The paradox of Latino representation in mainstream media
    • Mainstream media's history and role in Latino erasure
    • Time for a cultural reckoning

    Notable Quotes: ❞

    "How white do you have to be to become mainstream?" — Mike Sargent

    "You want to make a million people disappear? Here's how you do it. Don't cover them. Don't nominate them. Don't talk about them." – Jack Rico

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    46 min

About Brown & Black

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Winner of a 2024 Gold Signal Award, 'Brown & Black' is a podcast at the intersection of race and pop culture. Hosted by Jack Rico (Latino) and Mike Sargent (Black), two nationally recognized film…

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