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Sue Berkey is a Fairfield, Iowa-based Hatha yoga teacher, sculptor, rebirthing practitioner, single mother, and house renovator who experienced her awakening through the most disarmingly simple of phrases. While reading or listening to the spiritual teacher Adi Da, she encountered his description of enlightenment: he was walking to the grocery store and "nothing happened." That statement — the sheer simplicity of it — cracked something open. In that moment, she realized she was never a victim of anyone else's words or circumstances, that she was the master and creator of her own experiences, and that all she had to do was be okay with that. What followed was a permanent stabilization: deep contentment, complete wholeness, a state so solid that nothing can meaningfully shake it.
Sue shares how she arrived at this state through a lifetime of practices that have nothing to do with traditional quiet-sitting meditation. Her primary tools have been Hatha yoga — pushing students to their physical and emotional edge so they can observe themselves wanting to quit, blame, or get angry — and rebirthing, a specific pranayama that forces one to feel all the suppressed emotions that our culture specializes in stuffing. She was born by cesarean, which in rebirthing literature correlates with a pattern of waiting for others to save you — a pattern she dismantled. Her yoga classes are, in her words, deliberate exercises in walking into fire.
She discusses how contentment and ambition can coexist powerfully, how she views every aspect of her life — including single motherhood, cheerleading, and house renovation — as spiritual practice, and offers moving advice for those facing death: forgive, express gratitude, and erase your chalkboard before you check out. Sue's closing message, which brought her to tears during the interview, is disarmingly simple: she doesn't care what path you're on, what you think, or what you read. Show her your love.
Interview recorded January 6, 2010.
Chapters:
00:00:00 - Enlightenment as a Universal Experience
00:02:36 - The Experience of Art in Different Cultures
00:04:40 - Sculpture and the Power of Rebirthing
00:06:37 - The Impact of Caesarian Births
00:08:15 - A Spiritual Awakening
00:10:29 - Living in a Superfluid World
00:12:28 - The Range of Human Feelings and Non-Judgment
00:14:22 - The Tricky Balance Between Spiritual Freedom and Economic Realities
00:15:52 - The Meaning of Freedom in Prison
00:17:43 - Choosing Traumatic Circumstances
00:20:49 - Finding Deep Contentment
00:23:34 - Stepping Out of the Comfort Zone
00:26:06 - Early Spiritual Practices
00:28:45 - TM, Hatha Yoga, and Spiritual Development
00:31:50 - Discussing Death and Transition
00:35:02 - The Importance of Stepping Out of Your Comfort Zone
00:37:54 - Fulfillment and Contentment
00:40:34 - Expanding Goals as an Artist, Healer, and Teacher
00:43:23 - The Value of Personality and Emotional Liberation
00:45:40 - Letting Go of Grudges
00:47:40 - The Quest for the Highest Truth
00:49:31 - Profound awakenings through yoga and meditation
00:51:22 - Awakening and Skepticism
00:54:15 - The Subjectivity of Judging Awakening
00:57:08 - The Levels of Awakening
00:59:26 - The Deepening of Compassion
01:02:22 - The Beauty of Being Comfortable with Yourself
01:05:00 - The Transformational Dream
01:07:19 - The Incremental Growth and Different Spiritual Paths
01:09:49 - The Beauty of Diversity and Unity
01:13:31 - Building a Community of Participation