What happens when the ambition that once fueled you starts to feel misaligned?

In this episode of Build Without Chaos, host Colleen Goepfert sits down with Caryne Say to explore how high-performing leaders navigate identity shifts, purpose recalibration, and the quiet pull toward more meaningful work.

Caryne shares what it looked like to walk away from urgency—not with chaos, but with clarity.

We cover:

• Over-functioning as a survival skill

• Feeling disoriented after “doing everything right”

• Finding alignment through purpose-driven, social impact roles

If you’ve ever succeeded on paper but felt off internally, this episode will resonate. This is what it sounds like to build without chaos.

🎧 Build Without Chaos is a podcast for leaders, founders, and operators who want to scale growth without burning out. Hosted by Colleen Goepfert.

When everything looks successful on paper—but something still feels off behind the scenes—you start asking different questions.

In this solo episode of Build Without Chaos, host Colleen Goepfert shares the turning point that made her stop operating on urgency and start building with clarity and precision.

This reflection is for leaders who’ve experienced chaos in growth, toxic urgency, or high-stakes environments—and are done replicating it.

🎧 Build Without Chaos is a podcast for leaders, founders, and operators who want to scale growth without burning out. Hosted by Colleen Goepfert.