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I brought Tim Fitzpatrick from Rialto Marketing back because too many MSPs keep telling me the same thing: “We tried marketing, it doesn’t work.” Tim breaks that thinking apart and explains why most of us don’t have a lead problem, we have a strategy problem. We dig into why “strategy before tactics” is the real fuel for your marketing engine, how to get specific about your ideal clients, and why your generic website hero section is quietly sending good prospects to your competitors.
We also talk about where the easy money is hiding inside your business right now. Tim walks through smart referral systems (not just client referrals but true referral partners), tapping MDF without the usual friction, and a real example of a 2M MSP that accidentally niched into healthcare but never built a plan around it. We wrap up on paid ads, SEO, and AI, and Tim explains why those tools only work when you already have an engine in place, plus how to use AI for data and research instead of just cranking out more weak content.
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=== Guest: Tim Fitzpatrick, Rialto Marketing
=== Companies / Vendors / Products / Books
=== SPONSORS:
=== SHOW MUSIC:
=== Connect with Uncle Marv
🌐 Website: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/
🎙 Host: Marvin Bee
🛒 Uncle Marv’s Amazon Store (gear & tools I recommend): https://amzn.to/3EiyKoZ
☕ Support the show: https://ko-fi.com/itbusinesspodcast
If you found value in this episode, share it with another MSP, IT provider, or tech entrepreneur. Your support helps keep practical, no-nonsense IT business conversations coming every week.
By Marvin Bee5
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I brought Tim Fitzpatrick from Rialto Marketing back because too many MSPs keep telling me the same thing: “We tried marketing, it doesn’t work.” Tim breaks that thinking apart and explains why most of us don’t have a lead problem, we have a strategy problem. We dig into why “strategy before tactics” is the real fuel for your marketing engine, how to get specific about your ideal clients, and why your generic website hero section is quietly sending good prospects to your competitors.
We also talk about where the easy money is hiding inside your business right now. Tim walks through smart referral systems (not just client referrals but true referral partners), tapping MDF without the usual friction, and a real example of a 2M MSP that accidentally niched into healthcare but never built a plan around it. We wrap up on paid ads, SEO, and AI, and Tim explains why those tools only work when you already have an engine in place, plus how to use AI for data and research instead of just cranking out more weak content.
Chapters
=== Guest: Tim Fitzpatrick, Rialto Marketing
=== Companies / Vendors / Products / Books
=== SPONSORS:
=== SHOW MUSIC:
=== Connect with Uncle Marv
🌐 Website: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/
🎙 Host: Marvin Bee
🛒 Uncle Marv’s Amazon Store (gear & tools I recommend): https://amzn.to/3EiyKoZ
☕ Support the show: https://ko-fi.com/itbusinesspodcast
If you found value in this episode, share it with another MSP, IT provider, or tech entrepreneur. Your support helps keep practical, no-nonsense IT business conversations coming every week.

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