Andrew and Jay talk about why relationships matter a lot in business. Sometime more than products, systems, or raw talent. They dig into the practical value of local relationships for staying informed and connected as decisions get made around you. From there, the conversation ranges across manufacturing, housing, leadership, parenting, and team dynamics. They also discuss when a product is finished enough to release, why over-tinkering stalls progress, and the role of people who know when to stop refining and move things forward. The episode closes with a clear-eyed look at AI in business: where it’s useful, where it falls short, and why responsibility still sits with the owner.