Business is Boring is a weekly podcast series presented by The Spinoff in association with Callaghan Innovation. Host Simon Pound speaks with innovators and commentators focused on the future of New Zealand, with the interview available as both audio and a transcribed excerpt. This week he talks to Andrew Childs, founder of Behemoth Brewing.

You will know the beer that is made by our guest today. You would have seen the cans with Churly, the mascot, with his big underbite pointy teeth and friendly colours and the fun names, that sometimes riff on US politics, but always have a little something interesting going on. Like the shower beer, with a holder for the wall of the shower as one example. But it all almost wasn't. Founder Andrew Childs was a lawyer in Wellington, and changed career, navigated setbacks and injury, and grew and grew his brand and business to today. Where now, Behemoth Brewing is running a Pledge Me equity crowdfund to build a brewery large enough for demand, and a 140 person restaurant with a real nose to tail approach. Depending on what day you arrive you will get where they are up to on the animal, with the restaurant and on-site butchery b run by Andrew's national champion butcher wife and co-force in the business, Hannah Miller. To chat the journey, the crowdfund and beer, a favourite topic, Andrew joined the podcast.....

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