Between Two Beers Podcast

He's one of New Zealand's greatest ever athletes - 7x Adventure Racing World Championships, a decade unbeaten on the biggest races on the planet, and a record-breaking 1,000-mile paddle down the Yukon. And he's done all of it with a heart condition.

But this conversation goes way past the trophy cabinet. Nathan Fa'avae takes us from a lonely Pasifika kid in 1970s Nelson to the start line of the world's toughest races - and into the moments that actually shaped him: losing his mind after 72 hours without sleep, his outrigger breaking apart 25km out to sea in the dark while leading the World's Toughest Race, and the day his whole world changed on a chairlift when he lost his mum.

Along the way: why he built the biggest adventure race on earth for women, the puddle that sums up how he parents, why he raises his kids to struggle on purpose, and why, for him, success isn't winning - it's freedom.

Between Two Beers is proudly brought to you by One New Zealand. We believe that One NZ connects New Zealand, while Between Two Beers connects New Zealanders. And together, we are NZ's most trusted connection platform.

Steve and Seamus are proud to be dressed by Barkers Clothing.

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Di sits down one on one with Seamus for an honest session about the thing he finds hardest: using his voice.

They get into why he defaults to making everyone else okay at his own expense, where that started (being the youngest, and a childhood of "seen and not heard"), and the real cost of staying quiet when speaking up would save time, money and energy.

Then there's the idea Di keeps coming back to: the joy of missing out. Not FOMO, JOMO. Why saying hell yes to what matters means getting comfortable saying "not yet" to everything else, and how Seamus used it to make a call the old version of him never would have.

They finish on a listener question every operator will recognise: how do you know when to leave a full-time salary behind and go all in on your own business? Di walks through exactly how she'd do it, step by step.

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New episodes of Accidental Business Owners with Di Foster, out now. Follow wherever you get your podcasts.

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Gilbert Enoka is back with the All Blacks. After 23 years and 304 tests as their mental skills coach - two World Cup wins along the way - he stepped away in 2023, worked with Chelsea and England cricket, and has now returned to the team as leadership and mental performance coach ahead of the 2027 World Cup.

This is a big one, recorded during his time away. The first half is the man: a childhood in an orphanage from 18 months to 12, learning to work and fight, and how being "emotionally malnourished" turned into the skill that made him indispensable - reading a room before anyone said a word.

The second half is the craft: the no-dickheads policy, standards over values, the "human library" of legends built for 2023, how close the All Blacks came to walking away from the haka, and the Gilbertisms - winge up not down, don't take the sausage, wishbone-backbone-funny-bone - he's spent a career distilling.

His book Become Unstoppable is out now.

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Steve reports back from the inaugural Halberg Golf Day at Royal Auckland - a celebrity auction, a plus-handicap playing partner, a 21-under round and a great cause. Meanwhile the office golf simulator is quietly destroying everyone's productivity.

Dave Wood's back on the show, and the boys are stuck in the gap between knowing the right thing to do and actually doing it - see: the kettlebells that have sat in the garage, still boxed, for two weeks. Plus the monthly "life dinner" relationship hack, a big birthday in Fiji, awards season for the team, a debate that'll split your household (sock-sock-shoe-shoe or sock-shoe-sock-shoe?), and a reflection on the response to the Gloria Masters episode.

Heads up - there's a sexologist in the studio next week, so get your questions in.

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The thing that gets you to the top is rarely the thing that keeps you there. Dave Wood is the first guest ever invited back on Between Two Beers three times. A former lifeguard and intensive care paramedic, he turned his own battle with chronic pain into a career as one of the world's leading voices on stress, mindset and human performance — working with elite athletes and some of the country's biggest businesses.

In his third visit, Dave gets into what pressure really does to high performers, and why pushing harder stops being the answer. He shares the moment that pulled him out of chronic pain, the story behind "be your own voice," knowing when to push and when to pull back, the stories we tell ourselves about our own bodies, becoming a dad —-and how his 79-year-old father's remarkable recovery says everything about the work we can all be doing now to stay healthy and present for the people we love.

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Steve, Seamus and Di sat down with two former Between Two Beers guests - Geoff Ross and Grant Baker, the founders behind 42 Below, Moa, Trilogy and Ecoya - and asked them one question: what would you do with the audience we have?

This episode is the debrief. The three of them unpack what came out of that room: why "trap money" killed a deal they were considering, why two people who've built a drinks brand said don't launch one, the difference between having a business and having a practice, and the shift from "what's next?" to just 10x-ing the thing that already works.

Plus: the value of doing the deep work when everyone else is letting AI write the shell, why the best takeaway wasn't the advice at all - and an Odoo listener question from Mary in Invercargill on how to build a business that runs without you.

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The silent epidemic harming Kiwi kids - and the survivor determined to end it.

For the first sixteen years of her life, Gloria Masters endured abuse most New Zealanders would refuse to believe happens here. She survived - and went on to become a teacher, a child psychotherapist and a communications trainer, dedicating her life to breaking the silence around child sexual abuse and giving parents the tools to protect their kids.

In one of the most confronting and important conversations we've had on the show, Gloria shares how she found hope in the darkest place imaginable, why she chose to hand the shame back to where it belongs, and the practical signs every adult should learn to notice.

⚠️ This episode contains discussion of child sexual abuse and suicide. Please take care listening.

If anything in this episode raises something for you:

• Safe to Talk – Kōrero mai (sexual harm): call 0800 044 334 or text 4334, free and confidential, 24/7
• Need to talk? Free call or text 1737 any time
• Worried about a child? Oranga Tamariki: 0508 326 459
• In an emergency, call 111

If you want to get in touch with Gloria and her Charity for support here: https://www.gloriamasters.com/

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Steve and Seamus are proud to be dressed by Barkers Clothing.

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The boys are back behind the scenes of Between Two Beers. This week a golf simulator lands in the office, the Kane Williamson live podcast at Made, a debrief on meeting Grant Baker and Jeff Ross, Father's Day as a new dad, and Between Two Bets.

Plus Mark Law returns three weeks on from his episode - the book selling out through five reprints, where things sit with the fine, the Givealittle campaign for his new emergency-response inventions, and a few stories about strangers picking the wrong guy that didn't make the original cut.

Mark's Givealittle page is funding two emergency-response innovations he's developing - a firefighting tank for Black Hawk helicopters and a rapidly deployable bridge for disaster zones. To support that work: https://givealittle.co.nz/cause/mark-law-and-his-kahu-nz-company-supported-by

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Louis Davis is the biggest content creator in New Zealand - 3.8 million followers, 3.5 billion views in a year, and TikTok Creator of the Year. But the numbers are, in his words, background noise.

In this episode he takes us back to where it started: a kid from Te Tai Tokerau whose mother told him at five that his words would change the world, a father who showed him what it means to love your family, and the teachers who saw something in him when his school reports said otherwise.

He talks about building a career no one gave him permission to have, why he moved home to raise his kids on his whenua, what he wants the world to understand about Māori fathers, and the philosophy behind being "delusionally aspirational" for as long as you can.

His new book, The Modern Dad, is out now.

Between Two Beers is proudly brought to you by One New Zealand. We believe that One NZ connects New Zealand, while Between Two Beers connects New Zealanders. And together, we are NZ's most trusted connection platform.

Steve and Seamus are proud to be dressed by Barkers Clothing.

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Every founder hits the point where the business stops being something they do and becomes who they are. Marcus Logan - "Marketing Marcus" - built his agency from a one-man band to a team of ten, and in this one-on-one with business coach Di Foster he gets honest about what that actually costs.

No boys in the studio this time - just Marcus and Di comparing notes on the things founders don't say out loud: why you don't need to pick one industry to have a niche, why "balance" is the wrong thing to chase, the rebrand from Via Digital to Sapiens, when to move people from contractors to employees, and how to grow hard in the season you're in without pretending it's sustainable forever.

An honest, practical conversation for anyone building something and figuring it out as they go.

Learn more about Marcus and Sapiens by visiting: https://www.sapiens.nz/

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