In this episode of Accidental Business Owners, Steve shares his experience from the Icehouse Owner Manager Programme — what he learned about leadership, the brutal honesty of 360 feedback, and how it’s changing the way he runs Between Two Beers.

Di and Steve unpack courage, confidence, and what it means to grow a creative business sustainably — without burning out or losing the magic.

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This week we’re re-sharing one of our favourite episodes ever, with Hayley Holt.

Hayley has lived an incredible life – and there’s so much to learn at each chapter. One of NZ’s highest profile broadcasters is on the podcast this week! We find out what young Hayley was like, the path from dancer to snowboarder, her difficult relationship with booze, her TV career and her challenging road to motherhood. …

And that’s just the tip of the iceberg.

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Go behind the scenes of the Stan Walker episode and inside the madness of a typical Hambassadors recording.

This week, Steve and Che share:

- What happened after Stan Walker’s interview (when he started singing in the studio!)

- A night at the rugby packed with familiar faces (Taika, Foxy, Sharyn Casey, Brodie Kane & more)

- Bree Tomasel’s wisdom on making decisions and starting messy

- A few new “Hambassadors” life hacks and off-camera laughs

If you love the Between Two Beers deep dives, you’ll love this honest, chaotic, and funny peek behind the curtain.

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Stan Walker’s story is one of survival, transformation, and purpose.

In this conversation, Stan opens up about the abuse and trauma of his childhood, the complicated relationship with his parents, and how those experiences shaped the man he is today. He reflects on the highs of fame after winning Australian Idol, the dark side of the music industry, and the battles he’s faced with public perception and health - including the life-changing surgery to remove his stomach after a genetic cancer diagnosis.

Stan also shares his journey of reclaiming his Māori identity, the cultural fire that projects like Mt. Zion and Aotearoa lit inside him, and why his purpose now is about building legacy, healing, and serving his community.

What you’ll learn in this episode:

• Stan’s experience growing up in an abusive household
• How trauma and family shaped his outlook on life
• The truth behind public rumours and industry pressures
• His stomach cancer journey and living without a stomach
• Reclaiming identity through te ao Māori and indigenous connection
• Why he values legacy, purpose, and family over fame

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This week, we’re asking the BIG question:

👉 Is it time to rebrand Between Two Beers?

What started as two mates in a garage drinking beers has grown into a full-time business — podcasts, speaking, storytelling, partnerships. But now we’re wondering:

• Is the beer in our name holding us back?
• Are sponsors avoiding us because of it?
• Would a new name unlock new opportunities — or kill everything we’ve built?

We also dive into:

• Sponsors vs strategic partners
• The chaos of cashflow
• How to avoid the “too hard basket” trap in business

And yes, we’re genuinely asking… are we really going to do this?

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Al Brown is one of New Zealand’s most beloved chefs — but behind the TV fame (Hunger for the Wild, Masterchef), award-winning restaurants (Logan Brown, Depot, Federal Deli, Best Ugly Bagels), and his role as a Kiwi food icon lies a story of adoption, perfectionism, reinvention and resilience.

In this wide-ranging conversation, Al opens up about:

• Walking away from fine dining and Logan Brown
• Building Depot into one of NZ’s most iconic restaurants
• His drive for perfectionism — and the toll it’s taken
• Friendship, family, and what happiness looks like at 60
• Why fritters, pies and bagels matter in our Kiwi food story

This episode is funny, raw and deeply human — a look inside the life of a man who helped redefine New Zealand’s food culture. Enjoy!

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In this episode of Hambassadors, we cover it all: parenting chaos, podcasting lessons, new beers, and one unforgettable message from Laura McGoldrick.

Laura shares the powerful reminder that “one day you’ll put your child down for the very last time” - a truth about time, parenting guilt, and family that hit us both hard.

But it’s not all serious…

- Bon accidentally smashes Billy in the face during a parents vs kids football match.

- Seamus bombs with the worst MC joke at prizegiving.

- We reveal our very own Ambassador Hazy IPA (cheers, Good George).

- And we share the biggest interviewing lessons from 6 years of Between Two Beers.

Plus, movie rankings (Moana vs Predator?!), an epic Betterman event, and a sneak peek at our next guest — Al Brown.

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Steve Gurney is one of the greatest multisport athletes New Zealand has ever produced - but this podcast is about so much more than racing.

In this episode, Steve takes us far beyond the finish line.

We explore:

• Why winning 9 Coast to Coast titles didn’t bring him peace
• The childhood trauma that lit his fire
• How a near-death illness nearly ended everything
• His struggles with depression and identity
• Deep work on mental rewiring through NLP
• Navigating masculinity, aging and purpose after sport
• Stories from Dancing With the Stars, full-body waxing and being naked on Breakfast TV
• And what keeps him emotionally moved at the Coast to Coast finish line to this day

This is a masterclass in introspection, reinvention, and the quiet pursuit of peace - from someone who has truly lived multiple lives.

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What’s really happening with Che & Di?

In this Accidental Business Owners sit-down, we unpack “the incident,” the viral clip that hit over 250k views versus where we’re at 10 weeks down the track.

Steve sets the scene, then Di breaks down why tough coaching landed, and Che explains the shift - speaking up, reducing cognitive load, and learning to say “no” without guilt.

We get into perception vs reality, the clip economy, unseen aftercare calls, cultural layers, and how values, relationships, and work collide. If you’re a founder, creator, or manager navigating candour, boundaries, and public scrutiny, this one’s gold.

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Olympic BMX star Sarah Walker has lived through it all: the glory of an Olympic silver medal, the pain of breaking 18 bones, and the terrifying reality of a serious brain injury that changed her personality.

In this episode of Between Two Beers, Sarah reveals:

• The mindset shift that turned fear into bravery.
• How she rebuilt her confidence after devastating injuries.
• What it really takes to compete at the Olympics when one mistake can end your career.
• The influence of legendary sports psychologist David Galbraith and the lessons she carried beyond sport.

This is not just a story about BMX. It’s about resilience, mental strength, and how to keep believing when the world tells you to stop.

📌 Chapters & Key Moments Inside:

• Overcoming brain injury and the fear of never riding again.
• The Olympic final that changed her life forever.
• Breaking 18 bones and finding courage through pain.
• Mindset techniques that anyone can use to perform under pressure.

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