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In this bonus episode of the Business of Tech, host Dave Sobel engages in a compelling conversation with Martin from Bitdefender, who describes his role as a popular scientist focused on making cybersecurity research more accessible and understandable. Martin Zugec highlights Bitdefender's long-standing commitment to research, particularly in Romania, where a wealth of security researchers contribute to the field. He emphasizes the importance of visibility for their groundbreaking work, aiming to inspire researchers who may feel their contributions go unnoticed.
The discussion shifts to the evolving profile of cyber criminals, particularly in the context of ransomware. Martin explains that the landscape has changed significantly since 2017, with a clear distinction between operators—primarily based in Russia—and affiliates who operate globally. He likens the cybercrime ecosystem to a gig economy, where individuals can leverage their unique skills, such as negotiation or business acumen, to participate in this illicit market. This transactional nature allows for a diverse range of participants, complicating the fight against cybercrime.
As the conversation progresses, Martin delves into the challenges of disrupting the cybercrime ecosystem. He notes that trust is a critical component of this world, and takedown operations can destabilize the entire network of criminals. For instance, when Bitdefender releases a decryption tool, it not only aids victims but also creates mistrust among affiliates and operators, leading to internal conflicts. Martin shares insights into how law enforcement agencies are beginning to adopt psychological tactics to undermine the trust within these criminal networks, showcasing the innovative approaches being taken to combat cyber threats.
Finally, Martin stresses the importance of prevention and the human factor in cybersecurity. He points out that many organizations fail to recognize the early signs of an attack, often focusing solely on the final stages of encryption. By understanding that cyber attacks can take weeks or even months to unfold, companies can better prepare and respond to threats. The episode concludes with a call for improved public-private collaboration in cybersecurity efforts, emphasizing the need for streamlined communication between organizations and law enforcement to effectively combat the ever-evolving landscape of cybercrime.
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In this episode of The Business of Tech, host Dave Sobel welcomes Abraham Garver from Focus Investment Bank to discuss the current state of the mergers and acquisitions (M&A) market for Managed Service Providers (MSPs). The conversation begins with an overview of the increasing interest from private equity groups in investing in MSPs, particularly those with operational maturity and a solid EBITDA of at least $3 million. Garver highlights that while there is a significant amount of capital available, the market is experiencing a shift that favors sellers, especially as larger funds seek bigger assets.
Garver explains that many smaller MSPs struggle to attract investment due to a lack of operational maturity, often relying on owner-led sales and failing to consistently add new customers. He emphasizes the importance of joining peer groups to help these smaller businesses develop the necessary skills and strategies to grow and become more attractive to investors. The discussion also touches on the challenges faced by smaller MSPs in navigating the competitive landscape, where larger players dominate the market.
The episode further explores the different investment theses that private equity groups adopt when looking to invest in MSPs. Garver notes that many investors are drawn to regulated industries but often overlook the need to find unique niches that have not yet been consolidated. He stresses that both MSPs and investors must think creatively to differentiate themselves in a crowded market, as many traditional approaches have already been explored by previous investors.
Finally, the conversation shifts to the dynamics of day one post-sale for MSPs and the conditions that lead to successful transitions. Garver shares insights on how to prepare for this critical phase, emphasizing the importance of having a strong management team and a clear growth strategy in place. He concludes by discussing the potential for ongoing investment cycles in the MSP space, suggesting that the market may continue to evolve with new rounds of investment rather than a singular focus on IPOs as an exit strategy.
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host Dave Sobel engages in a detailed conversation with Jake Varghese from ConnectWise, focusing on the company's business management software portfolio. Varghese outlines the seven key products within the portfolio, and the discussion highlights the importance of these tools in helping Managed Service Providers (MSPs) streamline their operations and improve efficiency.
A significant portion of the conversation revolves around the transition of the PSA to the ASIO platform. Sobel and Barghese explore the challenges and opportunities associated with this migration, emphasizing the need for partners to feel comfortable and secure during the transition. Varghese explains that success will be measured by the adoption of the new PSA and the realization of its benefits, including hyper-automation and a unified user experience. He reassures partners that their existing systems will remain intact, allowing for a smooth integration of the new platform.
The dialogue also delves into the strategic vision for ConnectWise's product offerings. Varghese discusses the balance between maintaining individual products and integrating them into a cohesive platform. He emphasizes the importance of understanding the evolving needs of partners and the industry, suggesting that the ultimate goal is to create a comprehensive solution that enhances operational efficiency for MSPs. The conversation touches on the potential for future developments and how the platform can adapt to meet changing demands.
Finally, the episode addresses the role of artificial intelligence and automation in the future of ConnectWise's offerings. Varghese shares insights on the introduction of Sidekick, a digital assistant designed to enhance user experience and operational efficiency. He envisions a future where AI becomes increasingly pervasive, enabling MSPs to delegate routine tasks and focus on higher-value work. The discussion concludes with a reflection on the transformative potential of AI in the industry, highlighting the need for effective data governance to ensure responsible use of technology.
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Significant developments in workplace engagement and productivity lead, focusing on contrasting strategies from major companies like Amazon and Intel. Amazon's CEO Andy Jassy recently addressed employee concerns regarding the company's return-to-office (RTO) mandate, which requires corporate employees to work on-site five days a week starting January 2025. While Jassy claims the policy aims to strengthen company culture, over 500 employees have signed a petition against it, raising questions about the true motivations behind the mandate. Meanwhile, Intel has reinstated free office coffee to boost employee morale amidst ongoing layoffs, reflecting a broader trend in the tech sector to support workforce engagement during challenging times.
Host Dave Sobel highlights research from the University of Melbourne, which indicates that companies offering flexible work options tend to perform better in the stock market. The study found a significant correlation between high rankings for remote work opportunities and improved share prices. Additionally, a survey by Quantum Workplace revealed that over 80% of hybrid employees report being engaged at work, compared to 72% of on-site employees. This data suggests that flexibility in work arrangements can enhance employee satisfaction and productivity, presenting a compelling counterpoint to the office-centric strategies of Amazon and Intel.
The episode also covers recent capital movements in the tech industry, with Logic Monitor raising $800 million to explore strategic mergers and expand its market presence. Enable Technologies has acquired AdLumen for approximately $225 million, enhancing its capabilities in security services. These moves reflect a growing demand for robust data center monitoring and security solutions, driven by the increasing importance of artificial intelligence in the tech landscape. Sobel notes that these investments indicate a recognition of the need for companies to grow and adapt in a competitive market.
Finally, Sobel delves into the evolving role of artificial intelligence in various sectors, including creative writing and IT service management. He discusses the implications of AI's integration into creative processes, particularly in relation to National Novel Writing Month, where the use of AI has sparked controversy over originality and skill development. Additionally, Sobel emphasizes the necessity for businesses to adapt their IT service management methods to incorporate AI, highlighting the potential for improved efficiency and user experiences. The episode concludes with thought-provoking questions about the balance between AI and human effort, urging listeners to consider how they can effectively leverage technology in their own organizations.
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00:00 From Amazon's RTO Push to Intel's Free Coffee: Contrasting Strategies in Workplace Engagement and Productivity
05:15 Capital Infusions and Acquisitions: How LogicMonitor and N-able Are Positioning for Market Leadership
07:18 Sentiment Analysis, Microsoft Integrations, and Strategic Growth Events: The Evolving Tools Empowering MSPs
09:27 AI's Expanding Role: Vectorization, Creative Writing, and IT Service Management Transformations
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Microsoft's Ignite event highlights the company's latest advancements in artificial intelligence and productivity tools. Microsoft has introduced a range of new AI agents designed to enhance collaboration within Microsoft 365 Copilot, including features for SharePoint, project management, and meeting assistance. These pre-configured agents aim to automate repetitive tasks and improve efficiency, with the Copilot Analytics dashboard providing insights into the impact of AI on productivity across organizations.
Sobel also covers Microsoft's Windows Resiliency Initiative, which seeks to bolster the security and recovery capabilities of Windows systems following the CrowdStrike outage that affected millions of devices. Key features include Quick Machine Recovery, which allows IT administrators to remotely troubleshoot unbootable machines, and the introduction of memory-safe programming languages to enhance overall security. Additionally, the episode discusses the new Windows 11 Administrator Protection feature, which requires user authentication for administrative tasks, thereby reducing the risk of malware attacks.
The episode further explores Microsoft's launch of the Windows 365 Link, a compact mini PC designed for office environments that connects users to corporate cloud applications without local storage. Priced at $349, this device supports high-resolution video conferencing and is easy to manage through Microsoft Intune. Sobel notes that this product represents a shift towards cloud-first environments, providing businesses with a cost-effective solution for endpoint management while maintaining productivity.
Finally, Sobel addresses the recent T-Mobile breach, attributed to a Chinese intelligence agency, which underscores the vulnerabilities in global telecommunications infrastructure. This incident serves as a reminder for enterprises to adopt proactive security measures, especially in light of increasing state-sponsored cyber threats. The episode concludes with a call for businesses to remain vigilant and prepared for the evolving landscape of cybersecurity challenges.
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00:00 Copilot Gets Smarter: Microsoft Unveils AI Agents, Analytics Dashboards, and New Management Tools
05:09 Microsoft’s Windows Resiliency Initiative: New Tools and Security Enhancements to Prevent Future Outages
07:59 The $349 Windows 365 Link: Microsoft’s Answer to Simplified Endpoint Management
10:27 T-Mobile Breach Highlights Ongoing Cyber-Espionage Threat to Global Telecom Infrastructure
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We dive in on the latest economic trends, focusing on rising inflation and its impact on consumer confidence. The consumer price index has seen an increase to 2.6% as of October, driven largely by persistent housing costs, which rose by 4% in October alone. Neil Kashkari, president of the Minneapolis Federal Reserve, highlights the housing sector as a significant challenge in the inflation landscape, while also expressing uncertainty about the economic implications of President-elect Trump's proposed policies.
The episode also delves into a recent Gartner report that reveals a stark contrast in the success rates of digital initiatives among organizations. While only 48% of digital projects meet or exceed their business outcome targets, a group termed the "digital vanguard" boasts a success rate of 71%. This disparity underscores the importance of collaboration between chief information officers and other business leaders to achieve successful digital transformations. Sobel emphasizes that organizations may face initiative fatigue, leading to hesitance in further investments without clear returns on investment.
Host Dave Sobel further explores the growing skepticism among CIOs regarding generative artificial intelligence (AI) two years after the launch of ChatGPT. Many organizations are struggling to scale AI projects, with only 2% of companies possessing the necessary talent and technology to succeed. The rising costs associated with generative AI, particularly in cloud services, have intensified pressure on IT leaders to deliver results. This situation presents an opportunity for IT service providers to offer specialized consulting and managed services to help organizations navigate these challenges.
Finally, the episode highlights recent developments from Kaseya and Aero, focusing on their strategies to enhance service offerings. Kaseya has introduced free hardware for its Datto Sirius appliances, aiming to reduce financial barriers for managed service providers. Meanwhile, Aero has integrated AI tools into its cloud platform, AeroSphere, to improve operational efficiency. Sobel concludes by noting that the integration of AI into operational platforms is becoming a standard expectation, urging service providers to stay informed about these trends to enhance their offerings and internal operations.
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00:00 Inflation Rises Amid Housing Challenges as Political Sentiment Drives Consumer Confidence Shifts
03:32 Gartner Report Highlights Digital Initiative Success Divide Amid IT Spending Surge and AI Expectations
06:13 CIO Skepticism Grows as Generative AI Drives Rising Costs, Scaling Challenges, and Vendor Prioritization
08:42 Kaseya Offers Free Hardware for Datto SIRIS Appliances as Arrow Integrates AI into ArrowSphere Cloud Platform
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A new study reveals the significant impact of generative AI on the job market, showing a 21% decline in demand for automation-prone freelance jobs shortly after the release of ChatGPT. The research, which analyzed over 1 million job postings, indicates that writing jobs were the most affected, followed by software development and graphic design roles. This shift raises concerns about the future of employment in these sectors, as the integration of AI tools continues to reshape professional workflows.
The episode also delves into the challenges faced by AI in the healthcare sector. A study from the University of Virginia Health found that while AI tools like ChatGPT can assist in diagnostics, they did not significantly improve accuracy compared to traditional methods. Many physicians struggled to effectively utilize the AI's capabilities, often sticking to their initial diagnoses. This highlights the need for better training and trust in AI systems to enhance their integration into medical practice and improve patient outcomes.
Host Dave Sobel further explores the skepticism surrounding Microsoft's AI product, Copilot, which has faced mixed reviews since its launch. A survey revealed that only a small percentage of IT leaders found significant value in the tool, with many employees struggling to incorporate it into their daily routines. The high subscription cost and concerns about effectiveness have led some companies to reconsider their investment in Copilot, raising questions about the future of AI tools in enhancing productivity.
Finally, the episode touches on the regulatory landscape for AI and cybersecurity, particularly in light of the upcoming Trump administration. The potential repeal of existing AI oversight could lead to a fragmented regulatory environment, complicating compliance for businesses. Sobel emphasizes the importance of proactive measures to navigate these changes, as well as the need for skilled workers in AI roles. The discussion concludes with a look at international developments in cybersecurity regulations, underscoring the evolving landscape that businesses must adapt to in order to thrive.
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00:00 Generative AI Spurs Job Market Shakeups, Healthcare Trials, and Corporate Integration Challenges
05:48 Regulatory Uncertainty Looms as Trump Administration Eyes AI and Cybersecurity Changes
09:26 Canada, EU, and Australia Drive Key Developments in Cybersecurity and Consumer Rights
11:50 From "Work with Apps" to Autonomous Agents: OpenAI Pushes Generative AI Deeper into Professional Workflows
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Host Dave Sobel welcomes back Peter Kujawa from Service Leadership to discuss the latest trends in managed service provider (MSP) revenue and profitability for Q3. Peter shares insights from a new analysis that reveals a slowdown in organic managed service growth, which has been trending back to historical norms after a significant spike during the COVID-19 pandemic. While the organic growth rate peaked at around 25% during the pandemic, it has now settled back to approximately 10-10.5%. Peter reassures MSPs that this return to historical levels is not a cause for panic, as it reflects a more stable market environment.
The conversation delves into the impact of inflation on revenue growth, highlighting that much of the previous growth was driven by price increases rather than new client acquisitions. Peter emphasizes that while MSPs have been raising prices to cope with wage inflation, this has also led to downward pressure on gross margins and profitability. Despite the cooling labor market, the overall outlook remains positive, with expectations for a solid year ahead, particularly for value-added resellers (VARs) who experienced high growth in product and project revenues during Q3.
As the discussion progresses, Peter shares intriguing data correlating MSP revenue growth with U.S. presidential election cycles. Historical data from previous election years indicates a pattern of decreased growth during election cycles, followed by a rebound in the subsequent year. With the 2024 election approaching, Peter anticipates a similar trend, suggesting that MSPs may experience a bounce-back in growth post-election, provided there are no significant unforeseen events.
Finally, the episode touches on the current state of mergers and acquisitions (M&A) in the MSP space. Peter notes that there is a notable disparity in the market, with many small MSPs and larger platform MSPs, but a lack of mid-sized firms. This has created a seller's market, where private equity buyers are particularly interested in acquiring smaller MSPs to consolidate and scale their operations. Peter advises smaller MSPs to develop a value creation strategy and consider merging with others to enhance their market position and achieve greater profitability. The episode concludes with a look ahead to upcoming reports on compensation and wage inflation, which will provide further insights into the evolving landscape of managed services.
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In this episode of the Business of Tech Lounge, host Dave Sobel engages in a thought-provoking discussion with Ryan Morris of Morris Management Partners and Luis Giraldo, Chief Experience Officer at ScalePad. The conversation centers around the provocative question: Does standardization equal commoditization? As the IT channel evolves, many Managed Service Providers (MSPs) are grappling with the challenge of balancing technology stack and process standardization while striving to maintain strategic differentiation in a competitive market.
Luis highlights the growing concern among MSPs, particularly those with significant revenue, who are experiencing downward pricing pressure as clients perceive similar offerings from multiple providers. He emphasizes that while standardization can streamline operations, an over-reliance on it can lead to a lack of strategic conversations with clients. This disconnect often results in MSPs being viewed as interchangeable, leading to commoditization and a struggle to demonstrate unique value. The discussion underscores the importance of understanding clients' businesses and fostering deeper relationships to escape this commoditization trap.
Ryan adds to the conversation by questioning the motivations behind standardization. He argues that while it can simplify operations for MSPs, it often fails to deliver value to customers if not aligned with their needs. He points out that the industry is still young, with ample opportunities for growth, and that competing solely on price is a self-inflicted wound. Instead, he advocates for a focus on customer outcomes and the importance of customizing engagements based on industry-specific needs, rather than forcing clients into a one-size-fits-all approach.
As the episode wraps up, both guests agree on the necessity of evolving the conversation around service delivery. They suggest that MSPs should not only standardize their internal processes but also adapt their client-facing strategies to emphasize understanding and addressing specific business challenges. By doing so, MSPs can create a more engaging and valuable experience for their clients, ultimately leading to differentiation in a crowded marketplace. The episode serves as a call to action for MSPs to rethink their approach to standardization and commoditization, encouraging them to prioritize strategic relationships and tailored solutions.
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Host Dave Sobel sits down with Jeff Bishop, who oversees the ASIO product line at ConnectWise. The conversation delves into the evolution of the ASIO platform, which has been a significant focus for the company. Jeff reflects on the challenges faced during the development process, particularly the decision to create an entire platform during the pandemic, which he admits was not ideal. Despite the hurdles, the team has made substantial progress, rebuilding core services and laying a strong foundation for the future.
As the discussion unfolds, Jeff shares insights into the current state of the ASIO platform, particularly regarding the Remote Monitoring and Management (RMM) capabilities. He expresses confidence in the product's readiness, noting that the team has worked diligently to address previous shortcomings. The conversation highlights the importance of customer feedback and satisfaction, with Jeff emphasizing that success will be measured not just by numbers but by the genuine belief and enthusiasm of the MSP community towards ASIO.
The episode also explores the evolving role of Managed Service Providers (MSPs) in the context of artificial intelligence (AI) and automation. Jeff envisions a future where MSPs transition from purely technical roles to becoming business evangelists for their clients. He discusses the potential for MSPs to develop tailored solutions for specific industries, leveraging their expertise to help small businesses navigate the complexities of AI and cybersecurity. This shift represents a significant opportunity for MSPs to enhance their value proposition and deepen their relationships with clients.
Finally, Jeff addresses the skills required for MSPs to adapt to this changing landscape, suggesting that prompt engineering and data understanding will be crucial. He believes that the future will see a collaborative environment where MSPs can share workflows and innovations, creating a network effect that amplifies their capabilities. The episode concludes on a hopeful note, with Jeff expressing excitement about the potential for MSPs to thrive in this new era of technology and business integration.
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