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Two things to know today

00:00 Frameworks for Ethical AI Use on the Rise: An Opportunity for Service Providers

05:27 Potential Shift in Social Media Landscape as Threads Challenges Established Platforms

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Three things to know today

00:00 Surge in Consumer Confidence Index Points to Economic Optimism

03:38 Organizations' Use of SaaS Apps Grows 27% YoY, Predicted to Cost $10k per Employee

05:28 Silicon Valley's Changing Norms: Routine Drug Use in Corporate Culture

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Andy Tryba is the Co-Founder & CEO of Ionic Partners, and also CEO of Gigster, a firm that accelerates the delivery of digital transformation applications giving companies the agility to thrive in a software-defined world. Andy is a nationally recognized Future of Work & Remote Work expert and his companies help some of the largest brands in the world integrate AI, ChatGPT, QA Automation and more.

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About Business of Tech: The daily MSP news and analysis podcast for managed service providers and IT services leaders. Host Dave Sobel covers AI for MSPs, MSP pricing and profitability, MSP M&A and private equity, vendor partner programs, MSP cybersecurity and liability, and MSP operations — and answers the question every story raises: Why do we care? Produced by MSP Radio.

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Three things to know today

00:00 End of Non-Competes? Trend Towards Limitations and Bans Grows Across U.S. States

02:04 Windows 11 Heading to the Cloud: Internal Microsoft Presentation Reveals Long-Term Strategy

03:56 Importance of Immigrants in U.S. AI Industry: New Study Provides Insight

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Three things to know today

00:00 Can Microsoft's Pricing Model Change to Counterfeit Software's Popularity

02:59 Racial and Gender Divide in IT Leadership Remains Consistent Since 2020

04:24 Leadership Underestimation of Employee Well-being Efforts Could Worsen Retention

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Three things to know today

00:00 A Third of Americans Use AI Tools, Verge/Vox Survey Reveals

03:49 Extortion Joins Damage Assessment in Rising DDoS Attacks

05:03 Racial Discrimination on the Rise in Tech, Reports Dice

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About Business of Tech: The daily MSP news and analysis podcast for managed service providers and IT services leaders. Host Dave Sobel covers AI for MSPs, MSP pricing and profitability, MSP M&A and private equity, vendor partner programs, MSP cybersecurity and liability, and MSP operations — and answers the question every story raises: Why do we care? Produced by MSP Radio.

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Three things to know today

00:00 Managed Services Adoption on the Rise, with Focus Shifting from Infrastructure to Core Security and Business Process Automation

02:09 Kaseya's IT Operations Report: Increased Outsourcing and Demand for Security Training Among IT Organizations

03:38 Widening Wage Gap in Tech: New Data Shows Disparity Grows for Underrepresented Groups

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About Business of Tech: The daily MSP news and analysis podcast for managed service providers and IT services leaders. Host Dave Sobel covers AI for MSPs, MSP pricing and profitability, MSP M&A and private equity, vendor partner programs, MSP cybersecurity and liability, and MSP operations — and answers the question every story raises: Why do we care? Produced by MSP Radio.

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Three things to know today

00:00 Small Tech Companies Leverage Remote Work as a Competitive Advantage, New Data Confirms

02:30 US Military Warned about Smartwatches with Potential Malware

03:43 Gender Imbalance in Tech Intensifies, Yet Greater Diversity Yields Better Performance

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Shirish Nadkarni is a serial entrepreneur with proven success in creating multiple consumer businesses that have scaled to tens of millions of users worldwide. Shirish was the co-founder of Livemocha, the world’s largest language learning site with 15+ million registered members from over 200 countries. Livemocha was acquired by RosettaStone in 2013. Prior to Livemocha, Shirish was the founder of TeamOn Systems, a mobile wireless e-mail pioneer that was acquired by BlackBerry in 2002. The TeamOn technology served as the core foundation for Blackberry Internet E-mail which serviced over 50 million BlackBerry users. Shirish started his career at Microsoft where he engineered the acquisition of Hotmail and launched MSN.com, which became a leading web portal in the early days of the Internet.

Shirish received his MBA from Harvard Business School and a BSE in Electrical Engineering from the University of Michigan. He serves on the board of TiE Seattle where he chairs a number of programs including the GoVertical Startup Creation Workshop, the TiE Entrepreneur Institute and the TiE Seattle Angels initiative.

He is the author of the award-winning From Startup to Exit: An Insider's Guide to Launching and Scaling Your Tech Business and the forthcoming title, Winner Takes All: Case Studies in How Online Marketplaces Are Creating Modern Monopolies.

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00:00 IT Service Space Experiences Paradox: Partners Hire Amid Vendor Layoffs, Productivity Dip Stirs Alarm Yet Skills Shortage Looms Larger

02:17 Professionals Increasingly Embrace Generative AI; Curiosity and Optimism Surpass Concerns

05:19 New Federal Law Mandates Accommodations for Pregnant Workers: Shifts Maternity Benefit Landscape

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