In this interview, Kerry Lutz speaks with Mark J. Quann about recent market performance and why US stocks have lagged global markets despite what he views as a still-strong economy. He points to rising wages and increasing energy independence as key factors supporting long-term growth. Quann outlines the "buy, borrow, die" strategy — a tax-focused approach built on owning assets like stocks, ETFs, real estate, crypto, life insurance, and precious metals. Instead of selling assets and triggering taxes, he explains how borrowing against a portfolio can provide access to cash while keeping investments intact. He also shares practical steps for getting started, including small automated contributions and using margin loans through platforms like M1 Finance. Covered-call and commodity ETFs are discussed as potential income and inflation hedges, along with the long-term tax advantages of holding appreciating assets. Find Mark here: https://www.theperfectportfolio.com Find Kerry here :https://khlfsn.substack.com and here: https://inflation.cafe    Kerry's New Book "The Armstrong Economic Code: The 5 Truths Investors Must Never Forget" is out now on Amazon!  Get your copy here:   https://a.co/d/bvYbZOz  "The World According to Martin Armstrong – Conversations with the Master Forecaster" is a #1 Best Seller on Amazon. . Get your copy here: https://amzn.to/4kuC5p5