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For today’s episode, we talk about trauma, in particular Post Traumatic Stress disorder with guest Ciji Wagner. Ciji works with a program called Louder than Silence which provides community support and free EMDR therapy for survivors of sexual violence. If you don’t know what EMDR is, stick around until the end of the episode where we learn how EMDR is an exciting, evidence based, treatment for trauma.

Ciji covers the core realities of people suffering from PTSD like hypervigilance and dissociation. We learn about the difference between flashbacks and re-traumatization as well as the physical components and symptoms of PTSD. Ciji is a walking encyclopedia when it comes to trauma, and for a topic that can be so heavy and difficult, she breaks it down in extremely accessible and easy-to-digest nuggets of information. I loved recording this episode with Ciji, I could have talked with her all day–and I hope you enjoy it as well. 

Resources: 

Louder than Silence

https://www.louderthansilence.org/

Jo Lloyd Johnson’s CTBB episode: 

Watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9kbNL9lVlc&t=168s

Listen: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1921768/episodes/14748315

My Grandmother’s Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending our Hearts and Bodies by Resmaa Menakem

https://www.blackgarnetbooks.com/item/z3YkwCEgoISya2tD5iQyFQ

Ciji was a contributing author of the book Empathy Impact: The Wild Effects of Kindness in Action. Her chapter goes into her experience of EMDR and helps demystify it. 

Description of EMDR therapy: 

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/treatments/22641-emdr-therapy

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Today we talk with Lucas Wilson who is the author of the book Shame Sex Attraction: Survivor’s Stories of Conversion Therapy. This is a book of curated stories from folks who (exactly as the title states) have survived conversion therapy. We start the conversation by hearing what exactly is conversion therapy and learning about “conversion ideology” which is the underlying belief system behind conversion therapies. Then we get into the history of conversion therapy and how efforts to erase queer folks, is by definition, genocidal. Lucas explains how shame is core to these practices and tells his own story of conversion therapy and we hear about certain stories that stood out from the collection. 

Resources: 

Lucas’s Full Bio:

Lucas is a SSHRC Postdoctoral Fellow at University of Toronto Mississauga and was formerly the Justice, Equity, and Transformation Postdoctoral Fellow at University of Calgary. He is the editor of Shame-Sex Attraction: Survivors’ Stories of Conversion Therapy, and he is the author of At Home with the Holocaust: Postmemory, Domestic Space, and Second-Generation Holocaust Literature, which received the Jordan Schnitzer First Book Publication Award. His public-facing writing has appeared in The Advocate, Queerty, LGBTQ Nation, and Religion Dispatches, among other venues. He is currently working on two interrelated monograph projects that examine evangelical homophobia and transphobia in the U.S.

Lucas’s Social Media:

Instagram: @lukeslamdunkwilson

Threads: @lukeslamdunkwilson

Bluesky: @lukeslamdunkwilson.bsky.social

Twitter/X: @wilson_fw

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucas-wilson-2a0753b1/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/luke.wilson.96

Lucas’s Book: Shame-Sex Attraction: https://us.jkp.com/products/shamesex-attraction

Lucas cited the work of Sue E. Spivey Christine M. Robinson in their article: "Genocidal Intentions: Social Death and the Ex-Gay Movement"–I have linked their article here: https://digitalcommons.usf.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1114&context=gsp

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Today we talk about one of my favorite topics, ADHD. If you know me, you know that I have suspected since seminary that I have ADHD but I have never gotten a formal diagnosis. Because of this I have learned A LOT about ADHD and talk about it often. Well for this episode I got the chance to talk with someone else who LOVES to talk all things ADHD–Erin Mieskowski. Erin is a queer, neurodivergent pastor, preacher, writer and consultant who got diagnosed with ADHD at age 36. We get to hear Erin’s experience with getting diagnosed with ADHD, their journey with trying to find the best ADHD medication, as well as learn ADHD terms like  “hyperfocus” and “hyperfixation”. As you might expect with an episode featuring two people with ADHD this conversation is chatty and fun. We may also rant for a full two minutes about good fidgets. 

Erin’s Info: 

Full bio: Erin N. Mieskowski, M.Ed. is a queer, neurodivergent pastor, preacher, writer, and consultant with a passion for creating spaces where authenticity thrives. Diagnosed with ADHD at 36, Erin combines their background in adult education and leadership with a deep understanding of neurodiversity, making faith accessible through practical, ADHD-friendly strategies rooted in grace and authenticity.

Erin’s instagram: 

https://www.instagram.com/erinmieskowski/

Erin's Devotional: https://adhdevotional.com

Other Resources: 

Serotonin Syndrome Definition: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/serotonin-syndrome/symptoms-causes/syc-20354758

“On Fire” Meme by KC Greene:https://www.npr.org/2023/01/16/1149232763/this-is-fine-meme-anniversary-gunshow-web-comic

Fidgets: 

Stimmags: https://stimara.com/

NeeDoh Nice Cube: https://educationmakesthedifference.com/collections/all-products/products/schy-gncbnd

Drew Lynch Comedian ADHD Segment: Being Married To Someone With ADHD

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Our guest today is Issa Amro, a Palestinian Muslim who was nominated for the 2025 Nobel Peace Prize for his non-violent resistance, activism, and human rights defense work amongst Israeli occupation and settlers in Hebron, West Bank.

We are also graced with a guest-host Ana D. Loucks who lives here in Goshen with her family and is the co-Director of Michiana Voices for Middle East peace. You can read her full bio below. 

A content warning, Issa talks briefly but frankly about the violations of the Israeli military, which include being beaten and sexual assault

Issa’s story and commitment to remain in Palestine for his people is one that will stay with me always.

Issa’s Full Bio

Ana's Full Bio:
Ana D. Loucks graduated from Goshen College in 2013 with an Interdisciplinary Degree focusing on Peace Studies with minors in Women’s Studies and Social Work. She currently works with Michiana Voices as co-Director and enjoys reading, baking, knitting and coffee.

Resources Mentioned:

Michiana Voices for Middle East Peace: https://michianavoices.org/

More on the Ibrihimi Mosque Massacre by Baruch Goldstein

The Wanted 18 Film

Photo credits (takes you to a google sheet with all the credits linked)

Anna’s Photo website: https://www.kindredrootsphotography.com/

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Hey baddies! Welcome to season four! Today our guests are Caleb, Joshua, and Bekah Liechty from the band Girl Named Tom! A band that went from driving across the country in a minivan to making history as the first group to win The Voice. 

In our conversation we explore the question, is fame bad? We hear how Caleb, Joshua, and Bekah,  maintain their core values while promoting their work, how fans reacted when they came out in public support of Palestine, and the balance of maintaining boundaries while living with a public platform and presence. 

Since we filmed this episode back in October, Girl Named Tom went on a Christmas Tour, and they are finally able to release their own original music, and they are on tour again! Their EP “Wilder Then” will be out July 11. 

GNT Links: 

New Music: https://www.girlnamedtom.com/music

Tour Dates: https://www.girlnamedtom.com/tour

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/girlnamedtom/

Other Resources: 

Vine attribution: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Dl6tZY8jVMQ

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"And so on the wedding night, I couldn't do it...on paper we were married a year and a half. I remained a virgin the entire time." 

Bio: 

Bio: Mindy's journey began with the weight of purity culture on her shoulders. From a literal divorced virgin (in the classical sense), she's embarked on a path of self-discovery and empowerment. Her mission is to help others shed the chains of shame, guilt, and unrealistic expectations, embracing a life of sexual liberation, self-love, and confidence. Join her in breaking free and celebrating the beauty of authenticity and self-expression.

Resources: 

Mindy’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedivorcedvirgin/

Mindy’s Email: [email protected]

Emily Nagoski–https://www.emilynagoski.com/

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“I would like to see Christians and Jews having a conversation about how we can stop hurting one another…” 

Today’s topic is on Anti-Semitic (Anti-Jewish) sentiment or theology in Christianity. We discuss how defining antisemitism is difficult, how understanding Jesus’s Jewish context is imperative to understanding Jesus, we touch on Jesus’ relationships with women and how the “feminist Jesus” came about, and finally we hear AJ’s vision for how Jews and Christians can relate to one another. 

I have been sitting on this episode since July of 2023 (nearly two years). Part of why I haven’t released it sooner was because the timing didn’t feel right with the ongoing genocide in Gaza. I didn’t want to give the impression that by doing an episode on antisemitism that I was pro-the state of Israel’s actions of apartheid and genocide against Palestinians. Then I came to the realization that not releasing this episode holds up a false dichotomy that you can’t at one time, be against Palestinian suffering and Jewish suffering. Ironically there is a lot of Zionist rhetoric in fundamentalist Christianity that operates alongside anti semitic theology. And, as Christians (not just fundamentalist Christians) it is important to take a look at how the way we talk about Jesus is implicitly or explicitly anti-Jewish. AJ talks about simply naming Jesus and his actions as radical can be problematic. 

If you are looking for a Palestinian voice on the podcast, in season four you will get to hear a profound conversation I had with Issa Amro, a 2025 Nobel peace prize nominee who is a Palestinian Muslim working for nonviolent action and protest against the Israeli military and settlers. 

Bio: 
Dr. Amy-Jill Levine is the Rabbi Stanley M. Kessler Distinguished Professor of New Testament and Jewish Studies at Hartford International University for Religion and Peace.
(Read Full Bio here: https://www.hartfordinternational.edu/faculty/amy-jill-levine

Resources: 

AJ’s email: [email protected]

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In today’s Called to be Bad Podcast episode I talk with Shana Chivon Green who is a Queer/Lesbian pastor, writer, educator, doula, and a voracious reader. And our topic, as you already know, is on Praise Kinks. 

Resources: 

Shana’s instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shanachivon/

Sex Educators (mentioned this episode): 

Hannah Witton: https://www.hannahwitton.com/

Emily Nagoski: https://www.emilynagoski.com/

Dan Savage: https://savage.love/

Podcast Episodes: 

Praise Kink-(Pink Kink Podcast)

Do You Have a Praise Kink (Sex with Emily Podcast)

Kink Shame, and Sexual Healing (Curious Fox Podcast)
Defining BDSM: 

This webpage offers helpful information about BDSM. It is a therapy page, but it isn’t suggesting you need therapy if you are interested in BDSM–it is just informational. 

https://www.choosingtherapy.com/bdsm/

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Welcome baddies to Called to be Bad. In this episode I talk with professor, anti-racist, anti-oppression and peace educator Regina Shands Stoltzfus who co-authored the book Been in the Struggle: Pursuing an Antiracist Spirituality with Tobin Miller Shearer. Our primary topic is critical race theory, but we cover other elements of anti-racism and anti white-supremacy work within the world of education and church-life. 

Bio
Regina Shands Stoltzfus was born in Cleveland, Ohio, and lived there the first half of her life. She currently lives in Goshen, Indiana, and teaches at Goshen College in the religion, justice and society department. Regina is co-founder of the Roots of Justice Anti-Oppression program (formerly Damascus Road Anti-Racism Program) and has worked widely in peace education.  She holds a master of arts degree in biblical studies from Ashland Theological Seminary and a PhD in theology and ethics from Chicago Theological Seminary. She is the author of two previous books and her many articles have appeared in publications such as Sojourners and The Mennonite. She has also written for the Anabaptist Historians blog.


Resources: 

Where to find Regina: https://www.goshen.edu/faculty/reginass/
https://www.mennomedia.org/author/regina-shands-stoltzfus/

Her book: https://heraldpress.com/9781513809458/been-in-the-struggle/

Roots of Justice: https://www.rootsofjusticetraining.org/

Wider Stand: https://www.widerstandconsulting.org/

The water tracking app Regina mentions 😂https://waterllama.com/ 

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