In this episode of Hearts of Oak, Callum returns for his fourth appearance to discuss his recent trip to El Salvador. The conversation starts with lighthearted anecdotes before diving into the country's radical transformation under President Nayib Bukele. Callum explores El Salvador’s controversial adoption of Bitcoin, the crackdown on gang violence, and the delicate balance between security and civil liberties. Drawing comparisons to global authoritarian trends, he offers insight into the trade-offs societies make between freedom and stability. A must-listen for those interested in governance, economics, and human nature.

Recorded 24.02.25

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