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  • Episode 31: The Strange Death of Thomas Merton

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    An interview with Hugh Turley, co-author of the book "The Martyrdom of Thomas Merton: An Investigation." In the more than fifty years since Merton passed, this has been the only investigation of his death ever conducted.

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    "The Martyrdom of Thomas Merton: An Investigation"
    https://www.amazon.com/Martyrdom-Thomas-Merton-Investigation/dp/1548077380/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2CNV8XVI3XOWR&keywords=the+martyrdom+of+thomas+merton&qid=1582888800&s=books&sprefix=the+martyrdom+of%2Caps%2C218&sr=1-1

    Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression
    https://dcdave.com/article3/991228.html

    Vince Foster Murder Cover-up
    http://www.fbicover-up.com

    Dave Martin's website
    www.DCDave.com

    "The Assassination of James Forrestal," by David Martin
    https://www.amazon.com/Assassination-James-Forrestal-David-Martin/dp/0967352126/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?keywords=the+assassination+of+john+forrestal+david+martin&qid=1582888877&sr=8-1-fkmr1

    "JFK and The Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters," by James Douglass
    https://www.amazon.com/JFK-Unspeakable-Why-Died-Matters/dp/1439193886/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=jfk+and+the+unspeakable&qid=1582888947&sr=8-1

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    1 hr 28 min
  • Episode 30: Antiwar Thomas Merton, The Early Years

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    A look through the spiritual classic "The Seven Storey Mountain" to find out what shaped Thomas Merton's views on war and how those views developed in the first half of his life. (Note: spoilers!)

    0:00 Intro
    3:13 Early life
    8:12 Leaving England/Cambridge (1934)
    15:48 Communism at Columbia
    ---The Peace Strike and The Oxford Pledge
    22:23 Merton discovers the need for a spiritual life
    25:25 The "one truth people need to learn"
    29:09 Rumors of war
    ---Signing up for the draft
    40:41 Merton's draft number gets called
    --discerning whether the war is just
    48:52 Goodbye to a loved one
    50:30 Thomas Merton: an enemy?

    Source text:
    Merton, Thomas. "The Seven Storey Mountain, An Autobiography of Faith." Introduction by Robert Giroux, Fiftieth Anniversary Edition, Harcourt Inc., 1948.

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    54 min
  • Episode 29: A Reflection on "A Hidden Life"

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    Ellen shares a personal story and reads her essay "What about Franz?", a reflection on the film "A Hidden Life" written in January 2020.

    0:00 Personal story
    4:12 Christ the King
    11:22 Things Hidden
    22:39 Similarities between Franz and Ben
    25:07 Speaking versus Silence
    35:37 Better Questions

    Mentioned in this episode:

    "A Hidden Life" (2019) trailer
    https://youtu.be/qJXmdY4lVR0

    "Quad Primas" encyclical
    http://www.vatican.va/content/pius-xi/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xi_enc_11121925_quas-primas.html

    American Conscientious Objector Ben Salmon -- sign the petition here!
    https://www.bensalmon.org/letter

    "The Refusal," the story of Franz Jagerstatter
    https://vimeo.com/44379110

    "The Life and Message of Ben Salmon"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uemsuEoB_Ow&t=5s

    "There is No Just War" video about Ben Salmon
    https://youtu.be/eA9uZ4sZYCA

    "What about Franz?" by Ellen Finnigan
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/01/ellen-finnigan/what-about-franz/

    "Sophie Scholl: The Final Days" (Full Film)
    https://youtu.be/baRvF6ZBK18

    "Hacksaw Ridge" (2016)
    https://youtu.be/s2-1hz1juBI


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    42 min
  • Episode 28: Teach Your Children Well

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    Sam Dean, husband, father of seven children, Catholic convert and former Army Officer (1988-2010), tells us about his quest to find answers to his "Just War" questions and where it has led him.

    0:00 Sam's background
    7:30 Two memories that stand out from his military career
    12:00 Discovering Just War Doctrine / Theory / Tradition (?)
    19:15 How JWT is taught in a Catholic seminary
    22:20 Sam's quest for answers
    -----Chaplains
    28:14 A few answers received
    35:30 Sam calls in live to EWTN
    40:23 Meeting with his Bishop
    46:19 What do you teach your kids?
    52:05 Militarism in parishes
    1:01:50 SAM'S MESSAGE TO VETERANS
    1:02:31 Afterword / Some points of clarification

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    Mentioned in this episode:
    Sam's essay "A Catholic Father in a Perpetual War Society Reaches Out for Help From the Church"
    http://catholicsagainstmilitarism.com/just-war/teach-your-children-well-2/

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    1 hr 19 min
  • Episode 27: On Bishop Barron on WWI

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    This is the third and final piece of a longer conversation with Fr. Charles McCarthy. We respond to Bishop Barron's article "1917 and Remembering Who We Are" (Jan. '20), in which he seems mystified as to how Christians, "presumably schooled in the moral principles of Jesus Christ," could have participated en masse in the "folly of war" during WWI, especially since the war was not "proportional". The answer is simple.

    Part 1 of this conversation, Episode 25:
    https://youtu.be/KQ6iUaIQDHA

    Part 2 of this conversation, Episode 26:
    https://youtu.be/bWt4mihUA_c

    2:44 American Bishops' wholehearted support of WWI
    14:31 "presumably schooled in the moral principles of Jesus Christ"
    25:32 "proportionality"
    31:50 Repent!

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    "1917 and Remembering Who We Are," by Bishop Barron
    https://www.wordonfire.org/resources/article/1917-and-remembering-who-we-are/26302/

    Cardinal Gibbon's letter, signed by all United States Bishops, and sent to President Woodrow Wilson in 1918, conveying full support of the war

    "What Catholics Got Wrong about the Hunger Games"
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/12/ellen-finnigan/what-catholics-got-wrong-about-the-hunger-games/

    "Just War Theory: The Logic of Deceit," by Rev. Emmanuel McCarthy
    https://www.amazon.com/Christian-Just-War-Theory-Deceit-ebook/dp/B07MDZHGJ6/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?keywords=just+war+theory+logic+decipt&qid=1580512640&sr=8-1-fkmr0

    "The Organization Man," by William H. Whyte
    https://www.amazon.com/Organization-Man-William-H-Whyte/dp/0812218191/ref=sr_1_1?crid=W9BKS0567E1K&keywords=the+organization+man+william+h.+whyte&qid=1580512671&sprefix=the+organization+man%2Caps%2C177&sr=8-1

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    34 min
  • Episode 26: On Bishop Barron on Nonviolence

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    This episode is part two of a three part conversation. In it, Fr. McCarthy responds to Bishop Barron's take on nonviolence as expressed in his 2016 YouTube video: "Bishop Barron on Daniel Berrigan and Nonviolence." Can Christian nonviolence be likened to celibacy? Are those Christians who choose to be nonviolent, like Daniel Berrigan, merely providing an "eschatological witness"? It might be beneficial to listen to Bishop Barron's whole video (only 8 minutes, linked to below) before listening to this podcast.

    You can find part one of this conversation here in episode 25:
    https://youtu.be/KQ6iUaIQDHA

    1:40 A clip of Bishop Barron's take on nonviolence (abbreviated)
    4:00 Initial responses
    8:55 The Church's effort to rehabilitate itself
    13:24 Can nonviolence be likened to celibacy?
    17:20 Toying with eternal salvation
    21:40 One more reason Fr. Barron's analogy is a bad one
    25:35 Dealing with questions like: "What if all cops were nonviolent?"

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    "Bishop Barron on Daniel Berrigan and Nonviolence"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-0z2...

    "Behold the Lamb"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrTwG...

    "What about violence in the Old Testament"
    https://youtu.be/c3JOGbYb-dg

    "What about Christians in the military/police?"
    https://youtu.be/XdCtBV7mRQg

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    33 min
  • Episode 25: On James Martin on War

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    Fr. James Martin recently wrote an article for America magazine entitled "The Teaching of the Catholic Church is Clear: We Are Against War." You might want to read his (very short) article, linked below, before you listen to this podcast. Fr. McCarthy joins us to discuss.

    0:00 Intro
    3:10 Overview of Fr. James Martin's article
    10:08 Revisionist history
    13:13 "Against war"? Really?!
    16:39 Fr. McCarthy speaks from personal experience
    18:41 Total lack of clarity
    22:30 Mark Twain anecdote
    24:46 The reason for the Church's PR offensive
    28:39 1983 pastoral letter
    31:03 Implications
    34:44 The rules that regulate "teaching" by Catholic chaplains
    ...This conversation will be continued in Episode 25. Stay tuned!

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    Fr. James Martin's article in America magazine:
    https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2020/01/13/teaching-catholic-church-clear-we-are-against-war

    Bishop Botean's pastoral letter of March 7, 2003:
    https://www.centerforchristiannonviolence.org/node/10

    List of wars of the papal state:
    http://catholicsagainstmilitarism.com/war-and-peace/wars-of-the-papal-state/

    Fr. McCarthy's book, "Just War Theory: The Logic of Deceit"
    https://www.amazon.com/Christian-Just-War-Theory-Deceit-ebook/dp/B07MDZHGJ6/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=emmanuel+mccarthy&qid=1580314956&s=books&sr=1-3

    Matthew 5:33-38
    http://www.usccb.org/bible/matthew/5

    USCCB pastoral letter, "The Challenge of Peace: God's Promise and Our Response" (1983)
    http://www.usccb.org/upload/challenge-peace-gods-promise-our-response-1983.pdf

    "German Catholics and Hitler's Wars," by Gordon Zahn (1988)
    https://www.amazon.com/German-Catholics-Hitlers-Wars-Control-ebook/dp/B01MA3ZTYL/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=german+catholics+and+hitler%27s+war&qid=1580315172&sr=8-1

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    41 min
  • Episode 24: MLK Conspiracy Exposed

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    Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was assassinated as the result of a conspiracy that included elements of his own government: This was the verdict in a civil trial that took place in Memphis, Tennessee, in 1999. Twelve jurors reached a unanimous verdict after four weeks of testimony and over 70 witnesses.  They were only in deliberations for about an hour. Jim Douglass (a guest on the CAM podcast Episode 20) was one of the few who attended the trial. He wrote an essay about it, which Ellen reads on this episode of the podcast.

    The American media was not interested in reporting on the trial and continues to tell the American public that Dr. King was killed by a lone gunman. Wikipedia still says: "King was fatally shot by James Earl Ray at 6:01 p.m., April 4, 1968"; the trial is only mentioned briefly, buried under the subtopic "allegations of conspiracy." The NPR article linked below, written in 2018, is a typical example of mainstream "journalism" that takes seriously only several government investigations but fails to mention the civil trial that took place or the verdict in that trial. NPR dutifully assures you: This case is closed; nothing to see here.

    "The MLK Conspiracy Exposed in Memphis" by Jim Douglass (Spring 2000)
    https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/Unsp...

    Complete transcript of the trial:
    https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/MLKA...

    "King and the Cross" by Jim Douglass (2007)
    https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/Unsp...

    CAM interview with Jim Douglass:
    https://youtu.be/hD4UNcaH2Dw

    Example of "coverage" by NPR that omits mention of the trial and its verdict:
    https://www.npr.org/2018/04/04/598826...

    "Strength to Love" by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
    https://www.amazon.com/Strength-Love-...

    "Loving Your Enemies" sermon by MLK
    https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/ki...

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    1 hr
  • Episode 23: Pat McGeehan (R), W.V. House of Delegates

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    Pat McGeehan is a graduate of the Air Force Academy and served as an intelligence officer overseas. A former businessman, he is currently an author and a state representative in the West Virginia legislature. Eric Morris, who was interviewed in Episode 19 and is a former member of the Wyoming National Guard, interviews Pat about the "Defend the Guard Act" and "Bring Our Troops Home," covering a variety of other interesting topics along the way. 

    0:00 Pat's background
    5:20 Catholic intellectual tradition as a road to reversion
    13:38 Antimilitarism of Catholic tradition 
    ---Just War Theory and military service today
    --questioning things at the Air Force Academy
    21:47 Catholic chaplaincy 
    23:35 Deployment in 2005
    --first impressions
    --propaganda
    --questioning things more
    30:20 The "Afghanistan Papers"
    --Catholic military leaders, lies
    36:30 Secularism
    --watered down Catholic teaching
    43:22 Bring Our Troops Home / Defend the Guard Act
    --building a coalition 
    56:07 Diocese of West Virginia
    --Any support for Pat's efforts from Church hierarchy? 

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    https://www.amazon.com/Pat-McGeehan/e/B073X3MMM8?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&qid=1578693888&sr=1-1

    Find Pat's legislative record here:
    http://www.wvlegislature.gov/House/lawmaker.cfm?member=Delegate%20McGeehan

    Bring Our Troops Home:
    https://bringourtroopshome.us

    Find Eric's writing here:
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/11/no_author/why-i-am-a-veteran-for-peace/
    www.catholicsagainstmilitarism.com

    Interview with Eric:
    https://youtu.be/xKAPIFJ7h1Q

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    1 hr 4 min
  • Episode 22: Evil and Activism

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    Forty-eight hours into the new year and "world war 3" was already trending on Twitter. How can a Catholic respond to so much evil in the world? Is it wrong to be angry? Is prayer and fasting all we can do? What is the relationship of Christianity to activism? Fr. McCarthy returns to give us his thoughts.

    0:00 Introductory chit chat
    6:00 Thoughts on "nobodies" and hidden things
    11:40 So. Much. Evil. 
    15:20 What do we do about it? 
    1:00:00 Thoughts on "ends and means" in an election year
    ---Right to Life movement

    Fr. McCarthy's essay on Franz Jagerstatter (2007), "The  Man Who Chose to See"
    http://www.emmanuelcharlesmccarthy.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Issue-70_Vocations_Prayer_Franz-Jagerstatter-The-Man-Who-Chose-To-See.pdf

    Ellen's reflection on and review of the film "A Hidden Life" (2020), "What About Franz?"
    http://catholicsagainstmilitarism.com/just-war/what-about-franz/

    Essay by Fr. McCarthy, "Abortion and War," written soon after Iraq War I commenced
    https://www.centerforchristiannonviolence.org/sites/default/files/media/resources/essays/Abortion_and_War.pdf

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    1 hr 29 min

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