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Ellen reads aloud a new essay "Catholics at War & The Heart of Tragedy," A letter from EMF to EMJ. 

0:00 Background on the essay
2:26 Introduction
THE PROBLEM AS I SEE IT
8:52: The Railroad Switch
22:09 Tension, Confusion, or Delusion?
38:28 The Ancient Eddy
53:52 Our Polar Night
MY PROPOSED REMEDIES
1:06:17 The Hidden Grammar of the Hidden Grammar of the Universe
1:24:00 Invitation for EMJ and YOU!

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On November 18, 1969, during the height of the Vietnam War, a group of Notre Dame students protested the presence of Central Intelligence Agency and DAO (Defense Attache Office, Saigon) on campus. At the time, Fr. Emmanuel Charles McCarthy was a professor in the literature department; he had also founded and was the Director of The Program for the Study and Practice of Nonviolent Conflict Resolution. Ten of the students got expelled. Fr. McCarthy ended up resigning, to show solidarity with the students. 

On the 50th anniversary in 2019, Fr. McCarthy and four of the former students reunited to tell the story of what happened that day, why it happened, and how it has affected their lives, as well as the ripple effects it has sent through the institution of the University of Notre Dame. Episode 98 features their discussion, and Episode 99 features the speeches that were given that day. 

The gatherings that have been happening at Notre Dame every 10 years on the anniversary of the protests resulted in the first ever memorial to Conscientious Objectors on a Catholic campus in the United States being erected on the Notre Dame campus, across from the famous grotto. 

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On November 18, 1969, during the height of the Vietnam War, a group of Notre Dame students protested the presence of Central Intelligence Agency and DAO (Defense Attache Office, Saigon) on campus. At the time, Fr. Emmanuel Charles McCarthy was a professor in the literature department; he had also founded and was the Director of The Program for the Study and Practice of Nonviolent Conflict Resolution. Ten of the students got expelled. Fr. McCarthy ended up resigning, to show solidarity with the students. 

On the 50th anniversary in 2019, Fr. McCarthy and four of the former students reunited to tell the story of what happened that day, why it happened, and how it has affected their lives, as well as the ripple effects it has sent through the institution of the University of Notre Dame.

0:00 Fr. McCarthy provides an overview of the event
3:50 Mark Mahoney, John Eckenrode, Chris Cotter, and Carl Estabrook (faculty member at the time) introduce themselves
4:55 Mark Mahoney on what it was all about
7:35 John Eckenrode tells his story and explains the 15-minute rule
12:08 Did the school set them up? 
17:00 A retired DOW President gives Notre Dame $10 million
19:32 School would not even allow DOA and students to talk off campus
21:50 Suspensions and scapegoats
23:40 Fr. Hesburgh's treatment of the episode in his book
25:17 John Eckenrode explains the choices the students had and the way the legal case(s) unfolded
29:25 How Fr. McCarthy was "deceived" and how Fr. Hesburgh's book was "misleading" and sometimes "wrong"
37:07 Consequences in the university
44:38 Notre Dame's growth and endowment targets go from $35 million to $1 billion
48:38 John Eckinrode notes you will not find any plaques or memorials to the authors who exposed CIA or the conscientious objectors from Notre Dame
54:30 The "false witness" of Notre Dame
1:04:45 Question from a reporter: "How did this affect your life and what did you learn?"
1:24:00 Question from a reporter: "Would you recommend civil disobedience as a course of action to protest any topics today?"

Episode 1: Author Interview with Rev. Emmanuel McCarthy
https://youtu.be/M8LTAoheRpg?si=5Lqw1ZiJle95ppvL

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Jason Knudson joined the Navy in 1998, deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan, and now works in innovation and defense. We talk about the ongoing war in Gaza, among other things. Jason's perspective, which is different than mine, and comes from outside Catholic teaching on war, I see as a dose of worldly wisdom that the CAM podcast needs (not that I believe much in worldly wisdom on the topic, but it is worth hearing if only because, sometimes, worldly wisdom seems more connected to reality than the opining of the Catholic Just Warists who only want to talk about war in the theoretical and the abstract). Longtime listeners will, I hope, make connections with the ideas discussed more broadly on this podcast and will, I hope, share those observations charitably and thoughtfully in the comments section. 

I highly recommend Episode 45 as a follow up to this conversation: https://youtu.be/SEMwUG2EJyc

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Thanks to David Gray for the interview on "Off Code and Unscripted" over at St. Dominic's Media. David certainly did his research! He hits on some highlights of the CAM podcast over the last few years. Part II will work as a great overview and introduction for new viewers/listeners of CAM! Note: You'll hear audio from videos Ellen previously made that he is playing from other videos during the livestream.

Part I: Ellen's satire and personal background
Part II: War, Just War, Christian Nonviolence
47:30 Catholic teaching on war and the proper context for JWT
52:39 The question we "SHOULD" be asking right now!
56:00 What do we do in the face of mass human "failure" on an institutional and nationwide level and the tendency for humans to resort to violence?
1:03:00 Responding to critiques of Fr. Emmanuel McCarthy
1:10:53 Is the sacrifice of the soldier the greatest sacrifice?
1:12:10 Hacksaw Ridge and the power of God
1:15:25 One final question regarding was the Church wrong to defeat the Muslims? Self-defense? Hitler? Battle of Lepanto? Etc.

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Join me in the class with Hugh Owen "Six Day Creation"! Starts June 4.

Six Day Creation, A Live Online Class with Hugh Owen: courses.teachtothetext.com/p/sixdaycreation

This is one of my favorite episodes I've ever had the pleasure to record. Enjoy!

0:00 Why Hugh started the Kolbe Center for the Study of Creation
11:34: Is this Sola Scriptura, Protestant Fundamentalism?
18:30: What is "theistic evolution"?
24:31 Hugh's father and family history (U.N., Planned Parenthood)
28:25 The relationship between Theology, Philosophy, and Natural Science and how things got messed up among the Catholic intelligentsia
42:10 Is there any crossover with the work of E. Michael Jones?
(The video newsletter Hugh references in this part of the interview can be found here:    • The Scofield Bible & Darwinism ~ Kolb...  )
52:48 How the traditional doctrine of Creation is connected to war and the messages of Our Lady of Fatima
1:07:47 A clarification on "the errors of Russia" and the connection between evolution and Communism/materialism

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Patrick Thompson, who has been studying Fr. McCarthy's work, is my co-host in this episode on Stoicism and Christianity. (Our conversation takes some interesting turns!) 

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0:00 Patrick Intro
10:20 Epictetus & Stoics
13:17 Relationship between Stoicism and Christianity
23:33 Stoicism
--on enemies & Just War Theory
--reason and perception
32:40 The Major Difference 
--"The Bet" on Seinfeld
51:37 Constantine and the Cross
58:05 Gethsemane and more differences
1:05:05 Socrates
1:14:06 Attitudes towards death
1:26:00 Gambling versus loving
1:36:58 Popularity of Stoicism and Commercialization

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Thank you for listening!  You can find the original essay "Do Heroes Go to Heaven?" at LewRockwell.com: 
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/04/ellen-finnigan/do-military-heroes-go-to-heaven/

Find about more about my class for high schoolers "Ancient Greek Literature and Advanced Composition" which starts September 2024:
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Three emails sent out by Fr. McCarthy to his email list from February - March 2024. 

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Bishop John Michael Botean (Romanian Catholic eparchy of St. George in Canton Ohio) issued this Lenten Letter to his people in 2003. The letter was read from the pulpit of all Romanian Catholic Churches on March 9, 2003. This document represents the strongest antiwar stand by any Catholic bishop in the United States (and quite possibly the world) in relation to America's invasion of Iraq. Employing his full apostolic authority, Bishop Botean rules that it is morally impermissible for members of his flock to lend their support to this war effort. The document is avaiable from several sources on the internet. This particular version was posted on the Center for Christian Non-Violence (http://centerforchristiannonviolence.org/downloads/Pastoral_Letter_Iraq_War.pdf) retrieved on 7/28/2008.
-https://www.scribd.com/document/4196399/Pastoral-Letter-Iraq-War

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