Boy howdy…this was quite a chaotic season! Full of twists and turns and VERY flawed people. It resulted in fun recaps but…we wouldn’t want to spend time with this Island of Misfit Toys. We talk through the final challenges and last couple eliminations before diving deep into Final Tribal Council. No one sold themselves the best they could have but it’s okay - we give our analysis and even spell out what they SHOULD have explained to the jury. 

Let us know what you thought about our Survivor recaps and if you want us to keep doing them in the off-season! But join us next week for Katie’s men’s cast bios before her premiere. 

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We’re getting close to the end and these Survivors are making some extremely questionable choices strategically…but it leads to a great convo! Listen in to hear about Bob’s challenge dominance, gorillas with dumptruck asses, and even an uncomfortable/forced engagement? Is this the Bachelor? 

Per usual, tune in at the beginning for Bachelor Nation news including lots of engagements and new cast bio announcements. 

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We’re recapping an iconic episode of Survivor today with our Survivor Nation savant: Celestina! Tune in to hear top-notch insight on strategy, behind-the-scenes details, discussions on what our roles would be around camp, and what contestants have been up to recently. There’s even a Bachelor/Survivor cross-over reference! As always, listen in for Bachelor Nation news at the start including a Jaitlyn engagement, a Kastrid baby, and Katie’s queer-baiting controversy. 

Apologies for the different audio sound today, we’ve needed to revert to a back-up audio source after a technical malfunction. We hate podcasting glitches ALMOST as much as we hate Corinne and Randy. 

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Join us for an extra special Survivor 17 Gabon recap with...Danielle from Crime and Roses! Our alliance is STRONG as we discuss our similar hot takes in Bachelor Nation, merge teases in Episode 7, and racism, double-standards, and power trips in Episode 8. It’s an episode you won’t want to miss with a podcasting powerhouse. 

Check out Crime and Roses, a true crime and Bachelor recap podcast hosted by two Georgia attorneys. You can find them on Instagram at @crimeandroses and wherever you get your podcasts. 

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This season sure has an interesting cast of characters…and we are not lacking in strong options on all of them! Join us for Survivor Season 17 Episodes 4, 5, and 6 as we discuss Survivor fever dreams, challenge hacks, and merge predictions. Plus, we speculate on what kind of Survivor arc we would have as contestants. For Camille, it would be bossy leadership in shelter building and initiating Never-Have-I-Ever late into the night thus getting eliminated early, and Whitney laying low and thus forgotten about, allowing her to make it decently far into the game as a sleeper. 

As always, Bachelor News at the start of the episode where we discuss Rachel Lindsay and Ashley Spivey stepping away from Bachelor Nation, skeevy Reality Steve, and Katie’s second terrible promo. 

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We’ve left La Quinta…Nemacolin…and the Bachelor mansion to land with the cast of Survivor Season 17 in beautiful GABON. But we can’t help but leave a little bit of the past behind…considering we spend the first hour of this podcast episode recapping recent Bachelor Nation news (Colton coming out, Matt and Rachael drama, Chatty Broads’ confrontation of Reality Steve, and more). We recap Survivor S17 Episodes 1-3 (Episode 1 was a two-hour special) and meet some new characters including the more heavily discussed Sugar, Ace, Randy, Crystal, and Bob. Get your first glimpse into our strategy ideas, analysis, and predictions, including Whitney’s bold strategy of schoolyard picking an obviously terrible competitor to frame them and avoid being eliminated first, and Camille’s strong distrust of all hot floaters. So excited to go on this 39 day ~journey~ with you, and swipe to be reminded of the schedule! 

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Has the Bachelor been feeling a bit stale lately? Hopefully this podcast episode falls into some producers hands because we’ve come up with FANTASTIC ideas to make the show a bit more fun again. We suggest concepts inspired by our favorite reality shows (Survivor, Love Island, Love is Blind), mess around with the format, and generally modernize the franchise with some fresh solutions. Tune in for copious of Survivor references and even a conversation about pet peeves in drinking games in the journey to restructure this show that we love. Not to overhype this episode…but even as an off-season bonus, it’s an instant favorite. 

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Join us for another off-season episode where we ponder the delicate nature of the Bachelor universe as we know it…and speculate on how things could have turned out differently. What if Marquel Martin was our first Black lead in place of Chris Soules? What if Madi Prew had never been on Peter’s season? What if Bekah M had her unexpected pregnancy instead with Dean on Paradise? Tune in to hear more! 

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The weather is getting warmer, the birds are chirping, and another season of The Bachelor is behind us which means…Bachelor in Paradise looms closer every day. To satiate our craving we decided to do a BACHELOR IN PARADISE SEASON 7 MOCK FANTASY DRAFT! Snake draft style we cast contestants one-by-one, filling up our respective beaches equally with men and women until we each reached 30 influencers, pulling from Peter’s women, Listen To Your Heart, Clayshia’s men, and Matt’s women. Let us know who YOU think produced a better season on their beach. 

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It’s clear no one came out of this season a winner. Pure pain all around. Except maybe Michelle — a future Bachelorette! Listen to Whitney and Camille break down the final episode of Season 25. We start with a conversation about Patty Dion and John the Scorpio’s unexpected warmth and solid question asking before sending Matt into a spiral of doubt. We discuss the end of Matt and Michelle and talk at length about Matt not being ready “until his light is on “ (a lá SATC). Finally on the topic of ATFR, we discuss the impossibly horrible position Matt was put in, and completely understand when he gives us the longest silence in the history of television. Same, Matt. Same. 

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