Jordon Ozero hails from Vancouver Island, and after 20 years in the cruise industry coming to a close due to Covid, found himself looking for answers. He's now studying transformative tourism. He's seeking answers to the questions pilgrims and travellers have posed for centuries. How and why we seek a journey of discovery. This is a magic chat - with lots of insight about winter Caminos, too. You can find Jordon's blog here.... https://2014cds.wordpress.com/. And you can sponsor the podcast here.... https://www.patreon.com/danmullins