Graham Crabb and Mary Byker of the long-running Pop Will Eat Itself jump into the car before headlining the first night of Cold Waves VIII at Metro. Discussed on this episode:

• Everyone knows and has played with everyone else. Mary, in particular, is in Pigface and first became well-known for Gaye Bykers on Acid.
• The all-inclusive, un-pigeonholeable, sound of PWEI.
• The anniversary of PWEI's "This is the Day... " album. Mary: "I just realized what a really great record it was... it's a genuinely overlooked, great record."
• PWEI in the early 90s, and dealing with major labels.
• Graham is the only "through line" in the PWEI story.
• The ongoing role of technology in PWEI's music.
• The importance of talking about suicide.

Car Con Carne is presented by the Autobarn Mazda of Evanston

Jared Louche from CHEMLAB jumps in the car for a chat in front of Metro as Cold Waves VIII kicked off! Jared is a charismatic, intelligent, well-spoken, wildly creative guy with a dark past that he owns as he continues to look forward. Discussed on the show:

• Jared "carries a lot of stories with him."
• Remembering Jamie Duffy, whose life is celebrated at Cold Waves.
• The "unreality" of working in the restaurant business.
• Chicago is "home" to Jared.
• Chemlab calling it quits in Chicago... then taking it back.
• The musicians in Jared's band who constantly inspire him.
• The importance of new ideas being introduced to industrial music.
• The early days of Chemlab.
• Industrial is "machine rock."
• The challenge or running an indie label
• Jared did *all* the drugs before going sober 20 years ago. The new motto: "No smack, no crack, no pills, no powders... "
• "I was a complete and utter fuck-up."
• "He's dead now, because of me."

Car Con Carne is presented by the Autobarn Mazda of Evanston

Jared Louche from CHEMLAB jumps in the car for a chat in front of Metro as Cold Waves VIII kicked off! Jared is a charismatic, intelligent, well-spoken, wildly creative guy with a dark past that he owns as he continues to look forward. Discussed on the show:

• Jared "carries a lot of stories with him."
• Remembering Jamie Duffy, whose life is celebrated at Cold Waves.
• The "unreality" of working in the restaurant business.
• Chicago is "home" to Jared.
• Chemlab calling it quits in Chicago... then taking it back.
• The musicians in Jared's band who constantly inspire him.
• The importance of new ideas being introduced to industrial music.
• The early days of Chemlab.
• Industrial is "machine rock."
• The challenge or running an indie label
• Jared did *all* the drugs before going sober 20 years ago. The new motto: "No smack, no crack, no pills, no powders... "
• "I was a complete and utter fuck-up."
• "He's dead now, because of me."

Car Con Carne is presented by the Autobarn Mazda of Evanston

Jason and Ethan Novak of Acumen jumped into the Mazda, parked in front of Metro for Night One of the 8th annual "Cold Waves" event.

We talk about the band's history, as well as the story behind Cold Waves. Making the recording a little concerning was the fact that a Cubs game let out just as we started. It was a trainwreck of humanity.

Car Con Carne is presented by the Autobarn Mazda of Evanston.

Jason and Ethan Novak of Acumen jumped into the Mazda, parked in front of Metro for Night One of the 8th annual "Cold Waves" event.

We talk about the band's history, as well as the story behind Cold Waves. Making the recording a little concerning was the fact that a Cubs game let out just as we started. It was a trainwreck of humanity.

Car Con Carne is presented by the Autobarn Mazda of Evanston.

Sam Porter of Chicago band Kali Masi joined me backstage on Day Three of Riot Fest! Car Con Carne is presented by the Autobarn Mazda of Evanston.

Sam Porter of Chicago band Kali Masi joined me backstage on Day Three of Riot Fest! Car Con Carne is presented by the Autobarn Mazda of Evanston.

Listening to Ganser will make you feel cooler. I love this band, and it's even more exciting to claim them as a Chicago band. We talked on Day Two of Riot Fest, when they were hanging out before their Day Three performance.

Car Con Carne is presented by the Autobarn Mazda of Evanston.

Listening to Ganser will make you feel cooler. I love this band, and it's even more exciting to claim them as a Chicago band. We talked on Day Two of Riot Fest, when they were hanging out before their Day Three performance.

Car Con Carne is presented by the Autobarn Mazda of Evanston.

White Reaper is a wonderful band you need to discover. We talked backstage at Riot Fest after their set on Day Three and discussed:

• The haunted areas of their hometown of Louisville.
• White Reaper supports the limbless.
• New White Reaper stuff on the way!
• The White Reaper sound.
• What's the role of the guitar in pop culture, moving forward.

Car Con Carne is presented by the Autobarn Mazda of Evanston