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In this episode, we sit down with Carl Hartley and Rob Moore for one of the rawest and most brutally honest conversations we’ve ever had.

From building billion-view podcasts and becoming Europe’s biggest supercar dealer, to childhood trauma, pressure, loyalty, Andrew Tate, business, success, failure and the truth about money — this episode goes DEEP.

Rob opens up about being bullied growing up, his father’s public breakdown and the moment that completely changed his life forever. Carl reveals what it was really like being thrown into business as a child, learning from his father and brother, and why success “lasts for one second.”

The guys also discuss the reality of running businesses at the highest level, why nobody is truly loyal, dealing with pressure, interviewing controversial guests like Andrew Tate, the Bonnie Blue situation, F1 media training, competitors, trust, masculinity, and the mindset required to win.

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